88 Rs Camaro

Has anyone done an engine swap with a 440

magnum85mecham

I don't know man but sure is going to sound like a bad *** RS

five7kid

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There has probably been somebody who has done a .070" over 427 BBC.

To do a 440 Mopar in a 3rd gen would require a certain level of mental instability.

1gary

That's funny.

OK-I'll help out.This link is the popular V8 engine dimensions.The way to use it is look at the engines you know fit and then compare to the engine you want to swap.I have raced Mopars and Fords before and you need to know the parts for anything other than Chevy cost lots more.

http://www.carnut.com/specs/fengdim.html

Newfie Iroc

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I was into Chev'ys for years and then switched into Mopar and was in that camp for over 16 years...The Mopar engines are big. The 440 is wide and chances won"t fit. Forget any exhaust or steering. The oil pan is completely different. Not saying it can't be done..Better off picking up a 360 or 340...Properly put together these small blocks can make a tremendous amount of power and torque...My old 360 with 340 "stuff" was pushing near 400 and 350+ torque..Then there is the cost..mopar builds cost nearly twice as much as a Chevy build.....

AlkyIROC

440's are also huge pigs on gas

project89

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this engine bay is larger then the f-bodys,and yes this is a 440
the engine would prolly fit ut forget about headers ,we had to custom make a set for this car

watajob

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project89

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GTA50

Curious as to the Mopar 440. Why not the GM 454/455? The '73 T/A 455 SD was a pretty radical car by anyone's standards. Also, the Can-Am McLarens of the '70's used the 454 and if memory serves correctly, were modified to 596 c.i.

project89

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probably cause its different, i like the mopar stuff alot myself and even have a 392 hemi id love to put in my iroc, the thing would flat out fly with the hemi but they are real costly to build

that 440 we put in the plymouth was prolly 25 grand just in the engine, but that car runs almost mid 9's with a crappy driver on pumpgas, and u can drive it anywere

88 Rs Camaro

Well it fit in no problem have the motor and trans mocked up and made all the mounts the headers dont look bad to do either no problem with brakes or steering

88 Rs Camaro

I was already doing the camaro body with a frame ,full cage ,stockcar suspension and a curry ford 9 inch with yukon grizzly posi and 4.39 gears I found the 440 in an old pace arrow from original owners its a 1972 440 magnum with all forged internals and a 4 barrel only 60k miles on the motor bought it motor and 727 trans for 200.00$ i have had many old mopar's as a kid and always put the 440 in just love the sound and the torque besides why not be different

88 Rs Camaro

Lol well i would do a 4 cylinder if gas miledge was my goal

88 Rs Camaro

Yes I had a 70 340 duster built and wasent happy with the power till i put a 440 in

3rdgenmaro

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Post pictures.

88 Rs Camaro

I tried to post some but they are too large of a file size I will have them up as soon as possible.

88 Rs Camaro

88 Rs Camaro

Its not pretty yet just a quick mock up to do mounts and check fit steering and brakes worked easy had to shave some off the ac air box and flip sump on pan for crossmember with a fabed pickup tube. Probly going with 1 3/4 primary tube shorty headers have to fab next to meet up with the sidepipes. Have a 13 point roll cage in with .250 wall 1 1/2 tube and plan on puttin in major sub frame connectors also reinforcing the sub frames

3rdgenmaro

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Well I wish you the best and I hope you continue to update us with pics.

88 Rs Camaro

88 Rs Camaro

Thank you sir I have figured out how to put pics up hope everyone enjoys the process as much as I Next week will be hedders should be fun

88 Rs Camaro

Thank you for the great pics I have no doubt the headers will be a fun fab

88 Rs Camaro

Where there is a will there is a way I really like the camaro body style and now putting in the roll cage and moving the seat mounts way back the camaro fits so well

88 Rs Camaro

Sir its all ment to be fun I am a proud owner of an 88 RS and isnt this the engine swap forum guess I missed the part where you have to be mentally unstabel to put a mopar in a chevy although there are tons of ford 9 inch rears in them

G92Bill

Hey chris when I get back you need to take me for a ride it that bad *** camaro you have their. Haha. Cant wait to get back home bud. Hopefully your RS does not kick my iroc's *** to bad

G92Bill

I have a few pics and vids of your car on my computer chris do you want me to upload them?

88 Rs Camaro

I know that 100 more cubes work well with a camaro

G92Bill

This is some pictures of the Chris's camaro getting painted and cage installed.

project89

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im surprised it fits that well, the savoy's engine bay was wider then the 3rdgen and headers were a total pain in the ****, we also did steped headers 2 inch to 2 1/8th long tubes

if u plan on any kind of hot engine setup i strongly advise u to use atleast 1 7/8's primarys

what do u plan on using for heads/intake ?

i look foward to watching ur progress as i know very well what the 440 is capable of

project89

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btw i wouldnt try to adapt the engine mounts, i would use a front engine plate to make room for the headers

88 Rs Camaro

A big block is the key always the key brother no replacement for displacement

88 Rs Camaro

Tks already adapted the front mounts just need a bit more to hold it in

UnstableAviator

Looking good man, at first I doubted the project.

project89

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i would ditch them all together and go with a front plate it makes a ton more room for headers

1gary

1970's valve seats with today's gas is going to need some work.

88 Rs Camaro

Tks it is all fitting well Looks like the tough part will be the ac at this point.

88 Rs Camaro

I may but so far i have some hooker comp headers that may work with some tweaking wont be the full 2 inch primarys but they are very close and shortys that will dump right in the collector

88 Rs Camaro

For sure i was thinking bronze bushed guides with Viton valve seals

89rs454

Why would you do this when a ls3 would smoke it, and get better gas mileage and be less of headache to **** with. Yes it's thinking outside the box but it's just not smart.

3rdgenmaro

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I havent quite figured you out yet. Didnt you post this little statement in the Exhaust forum?

Going against yourself alittle are we?

project89

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are u even familiar with the mopar 440, i am see that car i posted that car runs 9's with a horrible driver on 91 pumpgas in a huge tank of a car

the engine is also way detuned and capable of alot more

if ih ebuilds that 440 right u will be hard pressed to come up with a car that willkeep up with it

89rs454

It's all about personal preference all this is just advice, do what ever the **** you wanna do.

urbanhunter44

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Man, this is really, f'ing, awesome! Can't wait to see it completed, let's see some more pics

88 Rs Camaro

Outside of the box is the best was an ls motor stock in yours

88 Rs Camaro

Tks man Nice to see someone that knows more than roller cam I am doing exaust now its all fitting well.

88 Rs Camaro

Here its only 1/8 mile they probly can with some gears. 1/4 I will walk away.

88 Rs Camaro

I am putting together the best of all.

G92Bill

89Rs454- Might I say, Chris is a good friend of mine and has alot of fab skills and experience when it comes to the 440. So messing with the 440 wont be that difficult. Now I am all for the LS SERIES motors because well good MPG and great HP per mod. But I feel you are very underestimating the 440. A stock LS3 will not have the slightest chance against the build Chris is doing. A built LS3 yes could hang but he plans on running low 10s high 9s. So you might want to retract your statement of a LS3 will smoke the 440. On that note I plan on possibly doing a LQ9 swap after my deployment.

88 Rs Camaro

Just because I can