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Old 05-01-2009, 01:24 AM
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Not sure what to do... rebuild or swap

Okay, I'm new here so please bear with me! =]

I have a 1986 Trans Am - 305 4bbl 5.0L V8 (automatic transmission). I bought this car pretty cheap from some moron who thought he was a mechanic. I was told there was quite a bit that I need to have replaced on the motor. I was also told if I was going to spend that much money I should either have the motor rebuilt/overhauled or just replace the motor with another.

I can't really find an actual mechanic around that would rebuild it. However, I know several that would change the motor for me. So, I'm really leaning towards finding another motor. However, I don't really think I need to buy a brand new motor considering I'm not racing the car or using it for anything as such. So, here are my questions:

1.) Would it be better to rebuild the motor that I have? Or just swap?
2.) If I was to swap, is it bad to use a used motor if I know it runs good and doesn't have a lot of mileage? If not, where are good places to find a rebuilt motor?
3.) If I was to swap, should I get another 305 or 350? (I've been told by a lot of guys that the 350 is better and the parts are cheaper?)

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!! Thanks! =]
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Re: Not sure what to do... rebuild or swap

Welcome to TGO

1. What exactly is wrong with your current motor?
2. If you are considering a swap 95% of people on this board will say go with the 350 (me being one of them).
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Re: Not sure what to do... rebuild or swap

Odds are it's an LG4, not the L69. If it's the LG4, you can just get another one for a much easier replacement. LG4s in Caprices and such usually haven't been messed with.
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Re: Not sure what to do... rebuild or swap

Originally Posted by yellow_lilies86
Okay, I'm new here so please bear with me! =]

I have a 1986 Trans Am - 305 4bbl 5.0L V8 (automatic transmission). I bought this car pretty cheap from some moron who thought he was a mechanic. I was told there was quite a bit that I need to have replaced on the motor. I was also told if I was going to spend that much money I should either have the motor rebuilt/overhauled or just replace the motor with another.

I can't really find an actual mechanic around that would rebuild it. However, I know several that would change the motor for me. So, I'm really leaning towards finding another motor. However, I don't really think I need to buy a brand new motor considering I'm not racing the car or using it for anything as such. So, here are my questions:

1.) Would it be better to rebuild the motor that I have? Or just swap?
2.) If I was to swap, is it bad to use a used motor if I know it runs good and doesn't have a lot of mileage? If not, where are good places to find a rebuilt motor?
3.) If I was to swap, should I get another 305 or 350? (I've been told by a lot of guys that the 350 is better and the parts are cheaper?)

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!! Thanks! =]
just my opinion here brother, but you can #1) purchase a remaned 0 miles 305 from kragen/autozone/pepboys, etc.. bolt in reliability to the tune of about 800 bucks give or take.

or#2) consider a craigslist or junkyard used motor, most parts (other that internals such as rods and pistons) are the same between 350 & 305, and are cheap and easy to find for both, infact they should be interchangable (265-400 except 307) *i could be wrong, i doubt i am.

for the power the 350 is the better choice in my opinion/ you can do a lot with it in the future.
hope i helped.
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Re: Not sure what to do... rebuild or swap

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Welcome to TGO

1. What exactly is wrong with your current motor?
2. If you are considering a swap 95% of people on this board will say go with the 350 (me being one of them).
Well, I knew that I needed to get the valve covers replaced because they're leaking really bad. I also need the valve cover gaskets, the rocker arms. I need to get my oil pan replaced. I was told I needed some rings replaced. There's some others that I can't really remember, but they told me if I was going to do all of that to just go with a different motor.
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Odds are it's an LG4, not the L69. If it's the LG4, you can just get another one for a much easier replacement. LG4s in Caprices and such usually haven't been messed with.
Yeah, mine is an automatic so I think it's LG4. From what I've read the L69 was only in the manuals. (Obviously I could be wrong, but that's just what I read).

I have a friend who has a lot of connections with car people (like mechanics and junk yards and parts places). He found me a used motor with about 130,000 miles on it for $250 and it runs great. I'd be charged $150 to pull and $150 to install, so $550 all together. I'm thinking about going with that option.
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Re: Not sure what to do... rebuild or swap

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Yeah, mine is an automatic so I think it's LG4. From what I've read the L69 was only in the manuals. (Obviously I could be wrong, but that's just what I read).

I have a friend who has a lot of connections with car people (like mechanics and junk yards and parts places). He found me a used motor with about 130,000 miles on it for $250 and it runs great. I'd be charged $150 to pull and $150 to install, so $550 all together. I'm thinking about going with that option.
130k for $550, i dont know man you could do better than that if you were able to do the wrenchwork yourself.
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130k for $550, i dont know man you could do better than that if you were able to do the wrenchwork yourself.
lol, well I do envy those girls who can do their own mechanical work, but I am not one of them. I can change spark plugs and fluids and tires and what not, however I do not know how to change a motor. If I knew how, I would definitely do it!!
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Re: Not sure what to do... rebuild or swap

I think $550 is a good price, and I think 130,000 miles is not TOO many for it to be worthwhile. Ask your friend about a new timing chain set. That's the first thing I'd do to the 130,000 mile engine before installing it.
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I think $550 is a good price, and I think 130,000 miles is not TOO many for it to be worthwhile. Ask your friend about a new timing chain set. That's the first thing I'd do to the 130,000 mile engine before installing it.
Actually! It already has that done. It's from a Camaro that was totaled in the rear-end. The guy who owned the Camaro said he just got that replaced a week before he wrecked it. I trust the guy doing the work not to lie, plus he said if I had any problems with it to come back and he'd fix it. Oh, and I had the mileage wrong, it's only got 103,000 - which is about half what I got on my old motor.
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Re: Not sure what to do... rebuild or swap

$550 seems like a really good deal to me since someone else is doing the labor. Thats less money than a lot of shops will charge to replace the fuel pump.
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$550 seems like a really good deal to me since someone else is doing the labor. Thats less money than a lot of shops will charge to replace the fuel pump.
Yeah, I'm really fortunate to have some connections. My boyfriend works at a body shop and then my brother-in-law's family is full of mechanics.
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