[TX] After market intake, Lower and Runners
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After market intake, Lower and Runners
I need 1 after market lower intake and a nice set of after market runners,
I don't care what brand..
Just need them to be fair in price..I have cash and will pay fast for the right price. so let me know what u have.
I don't care what brand..
Just need them to be fair in price..I have cash and will pay fast for the right price. so let me know what u have.
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I have a edelbrock base for sale
I think @Mike 92LX has some edelbrock runners.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...high-flow.html
I think @Mike 92LX has some edelbrock runners.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...high-flow.html
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No offence to "tuned performance" or anyone else for that matter, But.. 650.00 for a lower intake..and 500.00 for runners is to high of a price for me.
I just think that if you can buy a complete new re-man 350 long block with vortec heads, with all those moving parts and all that work for like 1200.00
So 1000.00+ dollars for the old TPI intakes has gotten out of hand, with that said, I'm sure people will buy, just not me..Again no offence.. Thank you guys for your response & help !! it's very much appreciated. Happy New Years !
I just think that if you can buy a complete new re-man 350 long block with vortec heads, with all those moving parts and all that work for like 1200.00
So 1000.00+ dollars for the old TPI intakes has gotten out of hand, with that said, I'm sure people will buy, just not me..Again no offence.. Thank you guys for your response & help !! it's very much appreciated. Happy New Years !
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No offence to "tuned performance" or anyone else for that matter, But.. 650.00 for a lower intake..and 500.00 for runners is to high of a price for me.
I just think that if you can buy a complete new re-man 350 long block with vortec heads, with all those moving parts and all that work for like 1200.00
So 1000.00+ dollars for the old TPI intakes has gotten out of hand, with that said, I'm sure people will buy, just not me..Again no offence.. Thank you guys for your response & help !! it's very much appreciated. Happy New Years !
I just think that if you can buy a complete new re-man 350 long block with vortec heads, with all those moving parts and all that work for like 1200.00
So 1000.00+ dollars for the old TPI intakes has gotten out of hand, with that said, I'm sure people will buy, just not me..Again no offence.. Thank you guys for your response & help !! it's very much appreciated. Happy New Years !
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I agree totally with you, on both points.
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Re: After market intake, Lower and Runners
No offence to "tuned performance" or anyone else for that matter, But.. 650.00 for a lower intake..and 500.00 for runners is to high of a price for me.
I just think that if you can buy a complete new re-man 350 long block with vortec heads, with all those moving parts and all that work for like 1200.00
So 1000.00+ dollars for the old TPI intakes has gotten out of hand, with that said, I'm sure people will buy, just not me..Again no offence.. Thank you guys for your response & help !! it's very much appreciated. Happy New Years !
I just think that if you can buy a complete new re-man 350 long block with vortec heads, with all those moving parts and all that work for like 1200.00
So 1000.00+ dollars for the old TPI intakes has gotten out of hand, with that said, I'm sure people will buy, just not me..Again no offence.. Thank you guys for your response & help !! it's very much appreciated. Happy New Years !
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I thought someone called them and they said they were done making them? Should be in a thread the last couple years. Last I heard, the only aftermarket TPI parts still in production are the Scoggin Dickey Vortec base (not really a hipo part) and some of the throttlebodies which also do nothing and have been slowly drying up.
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About 6 months ago when I installed mine I had to call them to get a gasket set. They did have it and shipped it out. I think it would be worth a call to them.
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I will definitely keep my eyes peeled for some eBay parts or maybe Craigslist.
Can anyone else think of place to look for parts ?
Can anyone else think of place to look for parts ?
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Yep, Time for me to search the earth..lol
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Well, what is "the right price" ?
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I disagree on the pricing. When you start talking $1000+ for parts why even bother with compromised performance by using OEM type parts.
That gets really close to the price of a First TPI system. You can pickup the entire intake top to bottom with fuel rails for under $1100. And the flow potential of a First TPI demolishes any unmodified aftermarket system. Only the extensively ported aftermarket OEM compatible TPI parts come close to the flow potential of the First TPI setup.
At that point the only reason someone should pay those kinds of prices if they want something that has historical significance. Say, if someone was trying to replicate a SLP Go pack out of SLP parts. Or if something was a prototype intake and its basically a one off bit of history.
I don't even know if I could justify spending $750 on OEM compatible TPI parts when the first intake comes in at $1050.
That gets really close to the price of a First TPI system. You can pickup the entire intake top to bottom with fuel rails for under $1100. And the flow potential of a First TPI demolishes any unmodified aftermarket system. Only the extensively ported aftermarket OEM compatible TPI parts come close to the flow potential of the First TPI setup.
At that point the only reason someone should pay those kinds of prices if they want something that has historical significance. Say, if someone was trying to replicate a SLP Go pack out of SLP parts. Or if something was a prototype intake and its basically a one off bit of history.
I don't even know if I could justify spending $750 on OEM compatible TPI parts when the first intake comes in at $1050.
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I had the AS&M Siamesed runners. Gorgeous part. Top notch quality. But the runners were SO THIN.
An AS&M top end with a Extrude honed TPIS bigmouth was proven to be one of the highest flowing OEM type TPI setups without getting into major welding to the parts.
An AS&M top end with a Extrude honed TPIS bigmouth was proven to be one of the highest flowing OEM type TPI setups without getting into major welding to the parts.
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I can speak from experience from installing the AS&M runners, Port matching and fully porting a stock base to the runners and port matching the upper plenum to the runners and the TB, yeah it flows! and as Bill said they are really nice looking, the finish on them is great
I used a ceramic coating on them before the install so any grease or finger prints wipe right away.
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Here’s a good priced edelbrock base. Not sure if it needs the thermostat stud repaired.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...-manifold.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...-manifold.html
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Here is a great article that pits a bunch of stock, stock ported, and aftermarket TPI parts against a Superram, HSR, and Mini-ram with dyno graphs. you can see how each combo affects the power curves.
The winner of the TPI style setups is actually a TPIS Bigmouth runner paired with a GM factory extrude honed base. 30-50hp gains everywhere in every point. Mini-ram won the HP competition, but you can see how it sacrifices below 4500rpm to carry the torque all the way to 6000rpm.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0...jF4WjlGbzhXSUk
The winner of the TPI style setups is actually a TPIS Bigmouth runner paired with a GM factory extrude honed base. 30-50hp gains everywhere in every point. Mini-ram won the HP competition, but you can see how it sacrifices below 4500rpm to carry the torque all the way to 6000rpm.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0...jF4WjlGbzhXSUk
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Here is a great article that pits a bunch of stock, stock ported, and aftermarket TPI parts against a Superram, HSR, and Mini-ram with dyno graphs. you can see how each combo affects the power curves.
The winner of the TPI style setups is actually a TPIS Bigmouth runner paired with a GM factory extrude honed base. 30-50hp gains everywhere in every point. Mini-ram won the HP competition, but you can see how it sacrifices below 4500rpm to carry the torque all the way to 6000rpm.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0...jF4WjlGbzhXSUk
The winner of the TPI style setups is actually a TPIS Bigmouth runner paired with a GM factory extrude honed base. 30-50hp gains everywhere in every point. Mini-ram won the HP competition, but you can see how it sacrifices below 4500rpm to carry the torque all the way to 6000rpm.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0...jF4WjlGbzhXSUk
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TPIS didn't make much of their own stuff. Their runners were AS&M, their intake was cast by Edelbrock with the TPIS name on it, their AFPR and throttlebody airfoil were Hypertech, plug wires were Taylor, the list goes on and on. I'm sure I'm forgetting more, but in general everything they sold was available elsewhere.
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Thank you guy's, Thirdgen89GTA, I agree with you ! vinny R, wow that intake set up looks sweet ! I end up picking up one of those "new" never used.. First TPI systems "intakes". It has been polished, looks pretty good, but i was looking for a reg finish one, but I guess I cant be to picky. You know if I bought it, the price was right !!
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So, I will try and post some pic tonight to show everyone that the TPI, SLP, AS&M intakes & runners..are out there for good prices, and it's the Buyers of these intakes parts, Not the sellers that set the market value. Some people will disagree and that is Ok. I mean nothing negative to anyone about my post, I'm just saying, if we are going to keep these car alive and fun, we can't afford to let the value of these speed parts to exceeds the value we place on the whole car itself. Maybe that's just out of my control, but I just want to keep the car alive and well, and the parts affordable to the mass, so this car never dies. Sorry if that was to deep !
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A few years back I piled all kinds of TPI performance parts in the closet for pennies on the dollar. When people were junking their project cars because worn out thirdgens with mods are lousy daily drivers, or because all the TPI mods in the world don't make a 30 year old car compete with an LS1. At that point it was EASY to find the stuff for half of what it cost new. Now, it's all discontinued, and the market is changing. Money is worth half of what it was, so everything has doubled in cost but not necessarily value. You can still find deals, but the market prices are ridiculous.
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Well Said, After I put this car together with some AFR heads, and slp headers maybe a small cam. It's just going to be a weekend car show car track car kind of..Well..car..lol
I think i want to get a used vette to handle thing on a day to day base's. They have so many good parts on them already.
I think i want to get a used vette to handle thing on a day to day base's. They have so many good parts on them already.
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I disagree on the pricing. When you start talking $1000+ for parts why even bother with compromised performance by using OEM type parts.
That gets really close to the price of a First TPI system. You can pickup the entire intake top to bottom with fuel rails for under $1100. And the flow potential of a First TPI demolishes any unmodified aftermarket system. Only the extensively ported aftermarket OEM compatible TPI parts come close to the flow potential of the First TPI setup.
At that point the only reason someone should pay those kinds of prices if they want something that has historical significance. Say, if someone was trying to replicate a SLP Go pack out of SLP parts. Or if something was a prototype intake and its basically a one off bit of history.
I don't even know if I could justify spending $750 on OEM compatible TPI parts when the first intake comes in at $1050.
That gets really close to the price of a First TPI system. You can pickup the entire intake top to bottom with fuel rails for under $1100. And the flow potential of a First TPI demolishes any unmodified aftermarket system. Only the extensively ported aftermarket OEM compatible TPI parts come close to the flow potential of the First TPI setup.
At that point the only reason someone should pay those kinds of prices if they want something that has historical significance. Say, if someone was trying to replicate a SLP Go pack out of SLP parts. Or if something was a prototype intake and its basically a one off bit of history.
I don't even know if I could justify spending $750 on OEM compatible TPI parts when the first intake comes in at $1050.
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Very cool indeed. I have never seen that style runner bolted on an engine. Thirdgen89 I guess you do not have those runners anymore? Probably should have saved those bad boys
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Ok, Guy's thanks for all the help..Looks like I found and bought a "First Intake system." I will try and post some pic of it. One thing I can tell you about these intakes are..there Heavy Duty, looks like there enough meat on them to port a life time..they are so super thick.
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