Oil Pressure Gage
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Oil Pressure Gage
OK, I have a steady problem with my oil pressure gage and I am absolutely lost now.
Car: 1992 Firebird, 3.1 Liter LH0, stock.
Problem: My oil pressure gage shows always the same. No matter what temperature the engine or the oil has, it ALWAYS shows around 65 PSI. That drives me crazy...
When I turn the ignition on, the needle climbs up to 0 PSI. Fine... When I start the engine, it climbs up to about 65 PSI and stays there all the time. It doesn't move when I hit the gas pedal, it doesn't move when the engine gets hot and so on.
I hooked up a manual pressure gage, here are the readings:
Cold engine
Idle: 63 PSI
2000 rpm: 67 PSI
4000 rpm: 80 PSI
6000 rpm: 83 PSI
Warm engine (around 190°F)
Idle: 45 PSI
2000 rpm: 63 PSI
4000 rpm: 72 PSI
6000 rpm: 80 PSI
Hot engine (around 230°F)
Idle: 35 PSI
2000 rpm: 60 PSI
4000 rpm: 68 PSI
6000 rpm: 72 PSI
So, oil pressure is definitely ok and the oil pump does it's job well.
After the measurement I bought a new oil pressure sending unit. Nothing changed. I bougt 4 (!) other sending units from different manufacturers, like Delco, Standard and so on. Nothing ever changend. So I swapped in a whole Instrument cluster from another car where the gage definitely works. Nothing changed. I swapped just the pressure gage into my cluster from a third car. Nothing changed.
I checked the pins at the instrument cluster and the connectors. Everything fine.
After that I went into electronics, here is the simple wiring scheme:
I checked the voltage at terminal D, orange wire -> ok
I disconnected my fuel pump relay. After few seconds, engine starts, so it seems that the backup works after reading oil pressure.
I checked the grey wire to the FP relay -> ok
After that, I checked the TAN wire, terminal A to ground and to the instrument cluster. Everything seems to be fine here. I could even measure the mysterious 68 Ohms resistor. I spliced into the wiring harness and found the little fellow, everything seems fine, reads axactly 68 Ohms.
What is this resistor for?
After all this, I just couldn't find anything that is not as it should be. Im really out of knowledge here what the problem could be.
I would be happy if anyone here ever had the same or even a similar problem.
I know, the gage is just an indicator and a manual gage is alway better, but I want to keep my car original and just want the damn thing to do what it is supposed to do.
Anyone here who can help?
Thanks guys!
Oliver
Car: 1992 Firebird, 3.1 Liter LH0, stock.
Problem: My oil pressure gage shows always the same. No matter what temperature the engine or the oil has, it ALWAYS shows around 65 PSI. That drives me crazy...
When I turn the ignition on, the needle climbs up to 0 PSI. Fine... When I start the engine, it climbs up to about 65 PSI and stays there all the time. It doesn't move when I hit the gas pedal, it doesn't move when the engine gets hot and so on.
I hooked up a manual pressure gage, here are the readings:
Cold engine
Idle: 63 PSI
2000 rpm: 67 PSI
4000 rpm: 80 PSI
6000 rpm: 83 PSI
Warm engine (around 190°F)
Idle: 45 PSI
2000 rpm: 63 PSI
4000 rpm: 72 PSI
6000 rpm: 80 PSI
Hot engine (around 230°F)
Idle: 35 PSI
2000 rpm: 60 PSI
4000 rpm: 68 PSI
6000 rpm: 72 PSI
So, oil pressure is definitely ok and the oil pump does it's job well.
After the measurement I bought a new oil pressure sending unit. Nothing changed. I bougt 4 (!) other sending units from different manufacturers, like Delco, Standard and so on. Nothing ever changend. So I swapped in a whole Instrument cluster from another car where the gage definitely works. Nothing changed. I swapped just the pressure gage into my cluster from a third car. Nothing changed.
I checked the pins at the instrument cluster and the connectors. Everything fine.
After that I went into electronics, here is the simple wiring scheme:
I checked the voltage at terminal D, orange wire -> ok
I disconnected my fuel pump relay. After few seconds, engine starts, so it seems that the backup works after reading oil pressure.
I checked the grey wire to the FP relay -> ok
After that, I checked the TAN wire, terminal A to ground and to the instrument cluster. Everything seems to be fine here. I could even measure the mysterious 68 Ohms resistor. I spliced into the wiring harness and found the little fellow, everything seems fine, reads axactly 68 Ohms.
What is this resistor for?
After all this, I just couldn't find anything that is not as it should be. Im really out of knowledge here what the problem could be.
I would be happy if anyone here ever had the same or even a similar problem.
I know, the gage is just an indicator and a manual gage is alway better, but I want to keep my car original and just want the damn thing to do what it is supposed to do.
Anyone here who can help?
Thanks guys!
Oliver
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Re: Oil Pressure Gage
Not sure this is the problem. There are different oil sending units.
3.1 engine- standard #PS236.
5.0 & 5.7 engine- standard #PS228.
The PS228 Has 90 OMMS AT MAXIMUM PRESSURE. 0 OHMS AT 0 PRESSURE.
My 1990 Camaro with the PS228 has no 68 OHM resistor in the circuit. Works fine. If it had that 68 OHMS it would read high all the time I think.
I don't know the specs on the PS236 just that its different.
Some thing to look at.
Good Luck.
3.1 engine- standard #PS236.
5.0 & 5.7 engine- standard #PS228.
The PS228 Has 90 OMMS AT MAXIMUM PRESSURE. 0 OHMS AT 0 PRESSURE.
My 1990 Camaro with the PS228 has no 68 OHM resistor in the circuit. Works fine. If it had that 68 OHMS it would read high all the time I think.
I don't know the specs on the PS236 just that its different.
Some thing to look at.
Good Luck.
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