Electronics Need help wiring something up? Thinking of adding an electrical component to your car? Need help troubleshooting that wiring glitch?

Projector Headlight Conversion

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-02-2016, 04:17 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Streetstuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 127
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1985 Camaro
Engine: 5.3
Transmission: 4L80e
Axle/Gears: 3.42 10 bolt
Projector Headlight Conversion

I found these but I'm pretty sure they are just like the eBay "projector" housings. I just got done looking at a couple dozen headlight conversion threads and have come to the conclusion that there really isn't a solution to upgrading the headlights without doing lots of modification. I know I could either get silverstars (heard they don't last very long) or spend $500+ for legit lights but neither of those sound appealing. Most of the threads I read were just throwing HIDs/LEDs into halogen housings which results in blinding oncoming traffic and/or not improving the visibility range over stock halogens. If anyone has any insight about the link I posted or another method or product I'd appreciate it.
Old 03-03-2016, 02:09 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (9)
 
84 1LE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oyth
Posts: 6,203
Received 321 Likes on 263 Posts
Car: 89RS vert
Engine: Erod
Transmission: 4L65e
Axle/Gears: BW, 3.27
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

You can do a projector/hid retrofit without coming close to $500.Several threads posted here on that.
Old 03-04-2016, 07:26 AM
  #3  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Streetstuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 127
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1985 Camaro
Engine: 5.3
Transmission: 4L80e
Axle/Gears: 3.42 10 bolt
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

I believe you misunderstand me. I know I can buy sets of retrofit kits for all four lights for around $300 but they do not have real projectors. I'm not going to spend money so I can blind people and see less distance. If you think you found some threads that adhere to what I have stated, then post the links.
Old 03-04-2016, 09:14 AM
  #4  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (8)
 
87CIZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,028
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 88' Iroc-Z
Engine: LQ9
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

Those are the same as the ebay projectors. You can buy actual projectors from skinnyboylighting for under $500. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...-lighting.html if you havent seen them. And his website is http://skinnyboylighting-com.webs.com/ if you want to check them out
Old 03-04-2016, 09:18 AM
  #5  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (9)
 
84 1LE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oyth
Posts: 6,203
Received 321 Likes on 263 Posts
Car: 89RS vert
Engine: Erod
Transmission: 4L65e
Axle/Gears: BW, 3.27
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

Understood just fine.Retrofit involves retrofitting real factory OEM projectors with HIDs.Since that's what projectors were designed for anyway.This way you will not blind oncomoing traffic & will allow you to see further without requiring a four headlight mod.

Retrofitting projectors/HIDs to your hi-beams is unnecessary.So installing four of these would be a waste of time & money.I won't even bother commenting on the link you posted.If you want to see some retrofiting threads try hidplanet.com

Last edited by 84 1LE; 03-04-2016 at 09:21 AM.
Old 03-04-2016, 12:26 PM
  #6  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Streetstuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 127
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1985 Camaro
Engine: 5.3
Transmission: 4L80e
Axle/Gears: 3.42 10 bolt
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

I looked at skinny boy lighting already. Looks like nice quality stuff but $300 for 2 lights is a little pricey. The reason I want all four is so it will match. Having two awesome lights and two old school halogens will look kind a dumb imo. I probably will go with him if it comes down to it however.

As for the link yeah I think those are pretty much pointless. I know what retrofitting is but Camaros do not have "real factory OEM projectors" to retrofit so I'm not sure what you are getting at. If you mean projector housings from another car than that would fall under "lots of modifications" as I stated in the first post and is not what I am looking for.

Thanks for the replies guys
Old 03-04-2016, 01:43 PM
  #7  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (9)
 
84 1LE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oyth
Posts: 6,203
Received 321 Likes on 263 Posts
Car: 89RS vert
Engine: Erod
Transmission: 4L65e
Axle/Gears: BW, 3.27
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

Of course they don't have projectors, that's what retrofitting is.Installing real factory type projectors into cars not originally equipped with such.There is some work involved, but it's definately not a ton of modification.
I understand having the matching look, but the hi beams don't need to be HID.Just look the part, did the same to mine.Hardly use them though as the lo beams do more than enough to illuminate the road.

You can fit OE style projectors into a stock fitting lamp, like those cheapy lamps in the link & they will fit with minimal mods to the car.It's been done, not just by me, but others here.Do a search, my thread is burried deep on this forum & I don't have the time to dig it out.
Old 03-04-2016, 03:04 PM
  #8  
Junior Member
 
mannix91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: New Hope Pa
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: AUTO
Axle/Gears: 2:73
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

I have been looking at the following in E-Bay. They accept H-4 Bulbs and "look" ok. At this price I may try them and see. 60 day return policy, How bad could they be???LOL
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4pc-4X6-Chro...tUwZRZ&vxp=mtr
Old 03-04-2016, 03:24 PM
  #9  
Banned

iTrader: (2)
 
5215's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 135
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1985 Camaro Sport Coupe
Engine: 2.8 - Bored/Stroked, Pacesetters
Transmission: 5 spd Manual
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

Originally Posted by mannix91
I have been looking at the following in E-Bay. They accept H-4 Bulbs and "look" ok. At this price I may try them and see. 60 day return policy, How bad could they be???LOL
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4pc-4X6-Chro...tUwZRZ&vxp=mtr
Hey bro, I think you will regret getting these. Seriously, I speak from personal experience. I have these and the light output is TERRIBLE. I got better light output from a single halogen old school bulb as opposed to two or even 4 of the ebay projector housings. That should give you an idea of how horrible the light pattern is!! Not only does the light suck but you will get "flashed" by oncoming cars because the light is not emitted towards the road/front of vehicle, it is all over the place. I turned these exact headlights into projectors and love them now! Twas a **** ton of work and cutting on the lenses and the buckets to get them to fit. May want to check out your local junk yard for some projectors out of a different make of vehicle. If you got the $40 burning a hole in your pocket try 'em and see. You may like 'em but I doubt it. Just keep all of the packaging for returns, 'eh.

Good luck man, let us know what you decide to do.

Last edited by 5215; 03-04-2016 at 03:30 PM.
Old 03-04-2016, 06:41 PM
  #10  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (8)
 
87CIZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,028
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 88' Iroc-Z
Engine: LQ9
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

you can get 2 real and 2 dummy lights for $300 through skinnyboy. He gets expensive if you want halos, demon eyes and stuff like that. when you price what the actual projectors are, he's not making much money on these and shipping is included in the price. you wont get quality lighting cheap. If you arent willing to spend the money on true HIDs you might as well stick with sealed beams.
Old 03-04-2016, 07:17 PM
  #11  
Supreme Member

 
mmadden55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Houson
Posts: 1,146
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Car: 86 Firebird
Engine: 305 SBC
Transmission: 700 R4 TCI
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

You could do LEDs as well, lots cheaper less power drain and brighter.
Old 03-05-2016, 11:46 AM
  #12  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Streetstuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 127
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1985 Camaro
Engine: 5.3
Transmission: 4L80e
Axle/Gears: 3.42 10 bolt
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

Where did you see 2 dummy and 2 real lights for $300? I just checked his FB page and I think it was over $400. Those are exactly what I wanted.
Old 03-06-2016, 08:00 AM
  #13  
Junior Member
 
mannix91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: New Hope Pa
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: AUTO
Axle/Gears: 2:73
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

Thanks for the input on the "cheapies" I have used Hella and Cibie H-4 lights and they have great output and sharp cut off patterns (Z-Beams)
I am not in a hurry to waste my money and don't want to spend anywhere near $300 for lights. So I will keep looking.
Thanks!!
Old 03-06-2016, 09:50 AM
  #14  
Junior Member
 
mannix91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: New Hope Pa
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: AUTO
Axle/Gears: 2:73
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

Actually thinking now that te cheapies are not worth the money I am finding Hella replacements for both high and low beams at about $100 per pair on Amazon. http://www.myhellalights.com/index.p...ion-headlamps/
I used these on our 77 Camaro and other cars and find that with 100 watt bulbs they give a great amount of light and well defined pattern. I am not sure how much better the HID lights are but I think I will probably give these another try.
Old 04-04-2016, 06:06 PM
  #15  
Member
 
Johnny*G's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1987 Trans Am
Engine: 355 Edel Int, SLP, Edel heders 8PSI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.45 Borg Warner
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

For my 87 Firebird i put this combo together and spent less than $140.00




Had to buy ballasts extra





i removed the chrome hexagonal center piece inside the lens.
Old 04-04-2016, 10:20 PM
  #16  
Member

 
fokeyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: UT
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 89 IROC
Engine: l98 350 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 373s
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

Originally Posted by Johnny*G
For my 87 Firebird i put this combo together and spent less than $140.00
How's the beam pattern and glare?
Old 04-04-2016, 10:25 PM
  #17  
Member
 
Johnny*G's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1987 Trans Am
Engine: 355 Edel Int, SLP, Edel heders 8PSI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.45 Borg Warner
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion




i'm only into this $130.00. it's the same as my 3 series BMW..sorry for the garage pic





almost touches the outer glass





has xenon high and low beam





just drove with it and i am very excited to drive this at night now!!! it's like driving at day!
Old 04-04-2016, 10:32 PM
  #18  
Member

 
fokeyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: UT
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 89 IROC
Engine: l98 350 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 373s
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

That was fast lol. Those look a lot ezer to build than others, I might have to give them a go.
Old 04-04-2016, 10:45 PM
  #19  
Member
 
Johnny*G's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1987 Trans Am
Engine: 355 Edel Int, SLP, Edel heders 8PSI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.45 Borg Warner
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

Yea! i've been wanting to drive this after work but took the headlights out a week ago, so they were installed tonight asap! i will need to walk you through 2 things when installing the bulb cartridge. Not tough. you will need a 1.5" x 1/16" rubber washer to cut and make contact pads to the bulb ear so it backs off the housing glass a little. but a couple pictures and you'll see what i mean.
Old 04-06-2016, 07:03 AM
  #20  
Member

 
fokeyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: UT
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 89 IROC
Engine: l98 350 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 373s
Re: Projector Headlight Conversion

How's the night driving compared to standard bulbs?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Logan.Bedford
Tech / General Engine
12
03-08-2016 08:22 PM
haro_is_king
Tech / General Engine
57
03-08-2016 12:08 PM
Bald_eagle_machine
Exterior Parts for Sale
0
03-01-2016 11:11 PM
B4C5.7
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
2
03-01-2016 10:01 PM
Shadez301
Electronics
3
03-01-2016 05:58 PM



Quick Reply: Projector Headlight Conversion



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:36 PM.