planned setup... need help
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car, 91 rs w/ 305. I'm throwing vortecs that were milled to 56cc. Gaskets are .015" thick. Cam is 97 lt1. Car is a manual, has 3.08's, will have 3.73's someday. I've done tons of research and decided to go from TBI to carb. Here is where the questions come in:
I'm going to run a Holley 650 DP. Intake, well probably the Performer RPM. I'd love to run the Air Gap, but research makes me think I may have clearence problems. Yes It can be made to fit with a drop base air cleaner, but will the top of the air cleaner be getting so low that it is now restricting air flow over the carb? Any opinoins here?
Next, I understand that I should get a vac advance dist. A reliable person very framiliar with thirdgens said that it was possible to un-hook the injectors, get the carb in there, still run the stock distributor, allowing it to still make all timing adjustments with the knock sensor and what not. Question here is would I still then need programming to get the most out of the new combo... with timing adjustments and what not. Probably easier to just get the vaccum advance unit, just thought i'd throw it out there.
Last thing, The pump. I see people making claims of some serious power using the stock TBI pump on a carb... using a regulator with a return line. I'm assuming the pump can deliver the volume needed for a carb.
Thanks for any input!! Matt
I'm going to run a Holley 650 DP. Intake, well probably the Performer RPM. I'd love to run the Air Gap, but research makes me think I may have clearence problems. Yes It can be made to fit with a drop base air cleaner, but will the top of the air cleaner be getting so low that it is now restricting air flow over the carb? Any opinoins here?
Next, I understand that I should get a vac advance dist. A reliable person very framiliar with thirdgens said that it was possible to un-hook the injectors, get the carb in there, still run the stock distributor, allowing it to still make all timing adjustments with the knock sensor and what not. Question here is would I still then need programming to get the most out of the new combo... with timing adjustments and what not. Probably easier to just get the vaccum advance unit, just thought i'd throw it out there.
Last thing, The pump. I see people making claims of some serious power using the stock TBI pump on a carb... using a regulator with a return line. I'm assuming the pump can deliver the volume needed for a carb.
Thanks for any input!! Matt
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Re: planned setup... need help
I'm going to run a Holley 650 DP
well probably the Performer RPM. I'd love to run the Air Gap, but ... clearence problems.
restricting air flow over the carb?.
Probably easier to just get the vaccum advance unit, just thought i'd throw it out there.
I'm assuming the pump can deliver the volume needed for a carb.
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: LS1/LQ4
Transmission: 4L60E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
TBI pump - From what I understand, it will be your first weak sister. Go ahead and run it until you find out it is inadequate. If it's been replaced, it may be fine already.
Holley tuneability and need to tune - Last season, running from mid-April to mid-October, I adjusted the idle mixture and idle speed at the beginning of the year. I readjusted those in early September after going from an Action+ intake to an RPM Air Gap. It may not have been "optimized" thoughout all that, but it didn't cause running problems, either.
What carb you run really depends upon how you run the car. For the street with an automatic transmission, the Performer is probably fine (although a q-jet would probably be better). For the strip and/or manual transmission, it's hard to beat a double pumper.
Holley tuneability and need to tune - Last season, running from mid-April to mid-October, I adjusted the idle mixture and idle speed at the beginning of the year. I readjusted those in early September after going from an Action+ intake to an RPM Air Gap. It may not have been "optimized" thoughout all that, but it didn't cause running problems, either.
What carb you run really depends upon how you run the car. For the street with an automatic transmission, the Performer is probably fine (although a q-jet would probably be better). For the strip and/or manual transmission, it's hard to beat a double pumper.
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There - now you have it from the expert - I've seen Five7kid answer all sorts of questions, and he's da man!
I always just heard (and mind you "they" say alot) that the Holley's were more tunable, and hence needed more attention, and that the Edelbrocks were for idiots like me lol - so I went Edelbrock and I'm pleased (which is the bottom line - pleasing the one that spent the money, right? LOL).
On the manual tranny stuff, I know nothing - last one I had was a 1972 Toyota Corolla - talk about a dog! LOL
I always just heard (and mind you "they" say alot) that the Holley's were more tunable, and hence needed more attention, and that the Edelbrocks were for idiots like me lol - so I went Edelbrock and I'm pleased (which is the bottom line - pleasing the one that spent the money, right? LOL).
On the manual tranny stuff, I know nothing - last one I had was a 1972 Toyota Corolla - talk about a dog! LOL
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TBI pump - Go ahead and run it until you find out it is inadequate.
TBI pump - Go ahead and run it until you find out it is inadequate.
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Engine: GMPP 350, 400 PMD
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For clearance on the bottom end, Eddy's 1221 deep flange air cleaner will clear the electric choke on a 1406 carb. Not sure yet about hood clearance though, but you can always get a shorter filter element. They come with a 3" paper element. I bought one for my LeMans but couldn't use it, not tall enough for the throttle linkage. Now, I have a hole in the hood liner where the air cleaner stud pokes thru with a flat base cleaner and 3" element. Incidentally, I ended up putting the 1221 on my Elky and it barely clears the HEI (350 sbc).
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