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Old 03-08-2010, 05:11 PM
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4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

i tried putting in my cd player i got from a 4th gen t/a and i got it wired up but for some reason it wont work it wont turn to fm or cd , but i can press recal and the time comes up for 5 sec wat is wrong ??
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

did you hook up 2 power wires or just one.it needs a memory wire as well as a positive key wire. did you use an adapter harness.
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

i did not use a harness i just used wat i pulled out of 96 t/a . i hooked up brown and orange from radio to my yellow wire in the car
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

I believe you have to hook up the orange and yellow wires to the orange wire in the car.This will give it constant power.Brown doesnt get hooked to power
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

ok ill try to get it all hooked up i also have a separate black blug that goes into radio also what does that do or go ??
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

sounds like theftloc is on
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

any way to bypass it ?
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

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any way to bypass it ?
Does "LOC" appear on the display? if so these are for the newer radios.

1. Press and hold presets 2 & 3 for about 10 seconds until the first 3 digits of the display code are displayed
2. Write the numbers down.
3. Press the AM FM button, write down the next 3 numbers
4. Call 1-800-537-5140, when asked, enter 202107, press the ÒbuttonÓ and enter the 6 digit code from the radio, you will get an unlock code, write it down.
5. Go back to the car, press the HR button and set the first 2 numbers, then press minute button and set the next two last numbers, press AM FM button, SEC should be displayed, turn on radio To remove customers code, repeat step 5. you should see --- on radio face, the code is now out of the radio.

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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

no loc does not appear
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

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no loc does not appear
The harness in my 88 GTA was plug and play for the newer Pontiac Delco radios. Should be the same for your 87, I've attached the 20 pin connector wiring diagram. newer Delco decks (beyond 2000) have a 22 pin connector

Did you see the radio working before the install? Could it be the radio itself?

If you want to see a pic of mine 4th gen radio its at:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/car-...ml#post4469640

I'm trying to add an aux line in to use my mp3 player

hope this helps you get some tunes in your ride.....if you are still having problems, so pics of the front and back of the deck would help.
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

i seen ur thread and mine is exactly like that but it is a built in cd player and i have both of those plugs in the back of mine and i wired up the larger plug (factory plug from 96) to my 87 and im not sure if i have to hook up the smaller one
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

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i seen ur thread and mine is exactly like that but it is a built in cd player and i have both of those plugs in the back of mine and i wired up the larger plug (factory plug from 96) to my 87 and im not sure if i have to hook up the smaller one
When you say thread do you our radios are the same but you have the CD player? If so do not use the newer harness, your stock harness should plug and play (if the decks are the same (20 pin)
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

yes it is exactly the same but my car only has like 3 plugs for the stuck radio
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

I am trying to figure why you want a 4th gen radio. It is a 600 watt moonsoon but it is nothing special. Plus you have to order special speakers that blow all the time. Bettter just to go total aftermarket. Newest radio would still be 8 years old, not much life left in that.
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

i want a 4th gen radio because i want my car to look completely stock with the advantages of the 4th gen style and looks , and why would my speakers blow u dont have to order specific speakers
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

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I am trying to figure why you want a 4th gen radio. It is a 600 watt moonsoon but it is nothing special. Plus you have to order special speakers that blow all the time. Bettter just to go total aftermarket. Newest radio would still be 8 years old, not much life left in that.
Been using mine and it's been fine. I want to keep a stock deck because I have the steering wheel controls, I like that functionality. It also looks sweet with the digital dash.
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

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i want a 4th gen radio because i want my car to look completely stock with the advantages of the 4th gen style and looks , and why would my speakers blow u dont have to order specific speakers
Not for the deck you have, I'm not sure about the moonsoon radio's speakers.

Anyway, here is the older wiring diagram, cross reference this with the newer one I posted above. Make sure all wires match colour and function.

If your car has the older harness, you might have to purchase an antenna adapter (newer are smaller)
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Re: 4th gen radio in a 3rd gen help

I apologize for the thread necropsy but I just solved the same problem the OP had when I installed a '99 Grand Am CD player into my '84 Z28.

The deck would illuminate, show time when I hit recall or the hr/min buttons and even eject cd's but would not "turn on" to actually play CD's or the radio. As noted, there was no "LOC" or any indication of theftlock being activated.

Double check your yellow switched ignition 12v connections. I was diagnosing with a multimeter and found I had constant 12v power on the orange but nothing on the yellow when I turned the key. Turned out the Red 10amp radio fuse was burnt out. Popped in a new one and the deck worked like a charm.

Hope this helps any future searchers.
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