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Old 07-20-2006, 02:10 AM
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C6 rear brakes questions

Just wondering if anyone has successfully swapped the 4 piston rear calipers onto a 10 bolt? Just wondering as I've got an LS1 rear and was wanting to upgrade to the c6 z06 brakes front and rear. And since tgo seems to be the brake connoisseurs when it comes to f-body's i thought i'd ask you guys. I have no idea how to go about this. Is there an adapter of some sort i need to bolt on c6 brakes? I'm wanting the 13.4 rotors in the rear and i've been searching for an hour and can't find anything but people asking the same questions.
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I do plan on making the swap available if there is enough interest. It will take a new backing plate and a few other odds and ends but I can manage it. If you'd like me to pursue this further, let me know. I have a few things to finish up...like that damn CTS-V setup but I can fit it in sometime this year, I'm making a mock up rearend stand soon.

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well i'll be doing it sometime in the next year so that works. I'm gonna get the calipers and pads as soon as i can afford them and see what needs to be done for the rear. The fronts bolt in to the c5 brackets right? but do they fit with the 14" rotor?
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You could always PC a stock set after media blasting them, I've done it. As for the fronts, they are supposed to be bolt on but I haven't verified it myself, the Vette forum guys say it's so and I believe them. I'm not sure the LS1 and C5 rear calipers are the same casting. I have both on hand but haven't sat down to look at them closely, no time. I'm not sure they are a direct swap in the back.

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I did the same search, basically it's to my understanding both rear rotor setups use the internal ebrake drum however the offset of the rotor is different on the vettes then the camaros and I'm unsure of the diameter difference on the 2. I'd gladly play a guinea pig for this one because I can help take very accurate measurements and I've got the ls1 axle and can pay for the C6 ZO6 rear brakes and whatever else would be needed.

I really want the C6 ZO6 rears, bad!
Now that I think about it though I do know a parts guy at a local Chevy dealer, the C5s are a direct swap with the C6 ZO6 rears, so I could probably get the dimensions on the C5s rear rotors and see what it takes to make them fit.
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alright did a little research and from what i understand the c6 front calipers bolt directly on to the c5 bracket but you have to use the c5 rotors. so obviously the c5 bracket needs to be heightened in order to run the 14" rotor. And actually i need to check out my ls1 rear and see how the caliper attaches see if anything is possible to modify easily.
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You did zero research, there's pics out there with links on this board to corvetteforums where it clearly shows the 06 Z06 Caliper and rotor bolting up to a C5 with no modifications on the fronts.
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You did zero research, there's pics out there with links on this board to corvetteforums where it clearly shows the 06 Z06 Caliper and rotor bolting up to a C5 with no modifications on the fronts.
i like the fact you called me an idiot. Sorry I don't frequent vette forums I was looking around fbody forums since thats all I'm a member too. So the difference is built in to the caliper that makes it alot easier. So anyway start to guinea pigging.
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Road racing a 10-bolt third gen and Dana 44 (same brakes) for many years I can tell you most of us dial out the stock rear disc brakes set-up completely or almost completely. We have found the trick to avoid brake hop is to do this and use a street pad that is not so grippy in back. I can't even imagine the kind of wheel hop you would get with a C6 brake set-up for the rear. If you want it for looks, fine, but for performance it is really not necessary.
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As I said I'll do it if the interest is there...however, I totally agree with Julie. If any of you can remember Colt's big ol' rear Wilwood setup, linked below, was too much brake and he did end arounds all the time and eventually switched to a smaller setup. Too much out back is not good, remember the fronts do about 85% of the work so concentrate your efforts there.

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As I said I'll do it if the interest is there...however, I totally agree with Julie. If any of you can remember Colt's big ol' rear Wilwood setup, linked below, was too much brake and he did end arounds all the time and eventually switched to a smaller setup. Too much out back is not good, remember the fronts do about 85% of the work so concentrate your efforts there.

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Right on Ed! You guys should be talking to Ed about putting some C6 front brakes together for ya!
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Originally Posted by Julie Bergman
Road racing a 10-bolt third gen and Dana 44 (same brakes) for many years I can tell you most of us dial out the stock rear disc brakes set-up completely or almost completely. We have found the trick to avoid brake hop is to do this and use a street pad that is not so grippy in back. I can't even imagine the kind of wheel hop you would get with a C6 brake set-up for the rear. If you want it for looks, fine, but for performance it is really not necessary.
Hey Julie. Long time no talk. Good to see some familiar names out here and CMC stronger than ever.
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Hey Julie. Long time no talk. Good to see some familiar names out here and CMC stronger than ever.
Neil! Good to see you on here too buddy! Indeed, CMC seems to get bigger every year!
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Originally Posted by 87CIZ
i like the fact you called me an idiot.
Yeah I did, I hate the fact that there's so much misinformation on this board. If people should get banned for that it's because they post info that's incorrect and it got to me a long time ago on here. Pretty much my only gripe here. But yeah, when the Z06 brake thread was big here I found that and sharted my pants with knowing that we pretty much had (all clearances allowing) a pretty much cheap bolt up 6 piston 14'' caliper setup.
Now for the rears, hehe I guess there is the 12.2" willwood and going all out for a matching front/rear setup that'll do. But figuring out how to bolt up the 13.4'' rear brakes off a C6 would rule.
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the car is going to be completely custom and i think that would be a nice touch for it. That and I've got an adjustable proportioning valve so that i can control rear brake bias. Not to mention with the LS2 going in i'll be wanting it to stop quick and in a hurry if need be. Since I'll have $20k or more in the car by the time it's finished.
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Re: C6 rear brakes questions

this is a little off topic, but if i was to put a ls1 rear on a dana 44, the brackets will just bolt up to the rear with out any mods???
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As I understand the Dana, yes.

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Re: C6 rear brakes questions

Originally Posted by 87CIZ
Just wondering if anyone has successfully swapped the 4 piston rear calipers onto a 10 bolt? Just wondering as I've got an LS1 rear and was wanting to upgrade to the c6 z06 brakes front and rear.
Why not just swap the entire rear ends out? 4th gen rears, are a direct bolt in. The only thing to consider then is, the BS of the wheels you are running.
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Re: C6 rear brakes questions

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Just wondering if anyone has successfully swapped the 4 piston rear calipers onto a 10 bolt?
I don't think anyone has done it yet but I do have the bracket pattern finished. Should there be enough interest I can run 10-20 pair. This can be done on 9 and 10 bolt disc rears and drum rears as well.

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Right on Ed! You guys should be talking to Ed about putting some C6 front brakes together for ya!
I have this bracket done as well.

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