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how to get "pits" out of the plenum when polishing

Yesterday I did some major sanding on the plenum of my tpi. Starting with 80 grit all the way up to 1000 then 1000 wet. Put some aluminum restore on it, then used mothers polish with the mothers miniball. It's coming along nice but what tools can I use to get these pits out? I hand sanded everything.
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If there are pits, they will have to be sanded out.
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If there are pits, they will have to be sanded out.
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What grit?
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It depends on how deep the pits are. Do you have any pics?
Hand sanding may not be enough either.
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Re: how to get "pits" out of the plenum when polishing

80 seems extremely aggressive to start polishing a TPI plenum.
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Re: how to get "pits" out of the plenum when polishing

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It depends on how deep the pits are. Do you have any pics?
Hand sanding may not be enough either.
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That looks like the factory textured surface. You'll need to keep sanding to level the surface enough and have the texture disappear.
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That looks like the factory textured surface. You'll need to keep sanding to level the surface enough and have the texture disappear.
What grit? Any tools recommended? Or just keep hand sanding
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Yep, that's the casting.
Why are you doing it on the car? You need to remove it to do it properly.
It sounds like you don't have access to the proper equipment so, get a ROS and start with 100/120 grit and keep it flat to prevent gouging. Sand until it is smooth and all casting imperfections are gone before moving to the next grit. Then with the next grit, sand until all previous sanding marks are removed and keep working through the grits.
This method can give decent results but, will never give the finish of a proper polish and will take much longer.
I would recommend removing it and doing the whole thing.
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Re: how to get "pits" out of the plenum when polishing

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Yep, that's the casting.
Why are you doing it on the car? You need to remove it to do it properly.
It sounds like you don't have access to the proper equipment so, get a ROS and start with 100/120 grit and keep it flat to prevent gouging. Sand until it is smooth and all casting imperfections are gone before moving to the next grit. Then with the next grit, sand until all previous sanding marks are removed and keep working through the grits.
This method can give decent results but, will never give the finish of a proper polish and will take much longer.
I would recommend removing it and doing the whole thing.
I don't know how to remove the tpi. Is it easy? Could you give some steps please.
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Re: how to get "pits" out of the plenum when polishing

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I don't know how to remove the tpi. Is it easy? Could you give some steps please.
Forums will have all of that information.

As will a Haynes or Chiltons manual.

You'll need to buy gaskets, as yours are unlikely to come off in once piece.

Gotta say though, if you can't figure out how it comes off, maybe you should do quite a bit more research before even attempting it. Not saying don't do it. Just read up on the boards.

As well as searching google and youtube for basic aluminum polishing guides. There are videos demonstrating the techniques.
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Re: how to get "pits" out of the plenum when polishing

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...-projects.html

I couldnt find my thread about when i polished my plenum and runners..but i used the same technique this guy used. the tools i used were a bandfile from harbor freight, a random orbiting sander, and an angle grinder with a cloth wheel and it came out great for me. used the bandfile for the pits, the bandfile really took a lot of material off quickly
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Re: how to get "pits" out of the plenum when polishing

Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA
Forums will have all of that information.

As will a Haynes or Chiltons manual.

You'll need to buy gaskets, as yours are unlikely to come off in once piece.

Gotta say though, if you can't figure out how it comes off, maybe you should do quite a bit more research before even attempting it. Not saying don't do it. Just read up on the boards.

As well as searching google and youtube for basic aluminum polishing guides. There are videos demonstrating the techniques.
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Re: how to get "pits" out of the plenum when polishing

Look up caswell plating, and check out the finishing forums if you want professional polishing advice. I've yet to see any professional recommend the use of an angle grinder as a polisher, or to sand past 400/600 grit but to each his own.
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Re: how to get "pits" out of the plenum when polishing

Lots of sanding. Theres no If and or buts about it. Look like you have a good start. So just keep sanding.

Yes its easier off the car but Dont get in over your head and try and remove it if your not confident you can.

Some good advice posted above. This will get ya started
http://www.caswellplating.com/buffin...shing-kit.html

I like to use tripoli and white rouge for polishing.
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