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11-12-2004, 01:20 PM
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i dont understand why you guys are picking on him, his camaro looks good, despite the hood.
It has no t-tops (that always seem to leak) it has the aeroscoop spoilers/skirts, and as far as i can see, no dents.
interior looks ok too.
about that weight reduction, if i had to choose one part to take off to reduce the weight, it would be the 3-ton hood!!!
wish my 1st camaro looked like that when i bought it...
It has no t-tops (that always seem to leak) it has the aeroscoop spoilers/skirts, and as far as i can see, no dents.
interior looks ok too.
about that weight reduction, if i had to choose one part to take off to reduce the weight, it would be the 3-ton hood!!!
wish my 1st camaro looked like that when i bought it...
11-12-2004, 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by GodSpeedGTA
Not if he dropped an L98 into his car hed walk you pal and hed walk my 89 GTA too if mine was bone stock weight matters there is no doubt and he never said he was keeping that 305...
my advice...Take off the bra buy a raceweight hood off of usbody...they weight like 20 lbs...shave the door handles and do the rest of the stripping necessary to keep it street legal but make it lighter and fill all the holes and clean up ratty looking stuff...drop a sweet engine in it 383 or 400 block and then paint it...then you will have your street/drag car that can run low #s at the track
by an ss hood and cut out both sides of the hood and you will still get a cooling effect plus they look good on the TG camaros
Not if he dropped an L98 into his car hed walk you pal and hed walk my 89 GTA too if mine was bone stock weight matters there is no doubt and he never said he was keeping that 305...
my advice...Take off the bra buy a raceweight hood off of usbody...they weight like 20 lbs...shave the door handles and do the rest of the stripping necessary to keep it street legal but make it lighter and fill all the holes and clean up ratty looking stuff...drop a sweet engine in it 383 or 400 block and then paint it...then you will have your street/drag car that can run low #s at the track
by an ss hood and cut out both sides of the hood and you will still get a cooling effect plus they look good on the TG camaros
11-12-2004, 01:26 PM
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I could see somebody thinking it's funny to steal his air cleaner..
or mess with his engine bay while it is sitting somewhere..
people are just that ignorant..
I say keep the hood on until you can afford a fiberglass hood..
Nothing wrong with making your car your own..
But taking your hood off is not my taste
The only 3rd gen i've seen running around without a hood that i like is Flirtin1's
or mess with his engine bay while it is sitting somewhere..
people are just that ignorant..
I say keep the hood on until you can afford a fiberglass hood..
Nothing wrong with making your car your own..
But taking your hood off is not my taste
The only 3rd gen i've seen running around without a hood that i like is Flirtin1's
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11-12-2004, 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by rolling-robert
i dont understand why you guys are picking on him, his camaro looks good, despite the hood.
It has no t-tops (that always seem to leak) it has the aeroscoop spoilers/skirts, and as far as i can see, no dents.
interior looks ok too.
about that weight reduction, if i had to choose one part to take off to reduce the weight, it would be the 3-ton hood!!!
wish my 1st camaro looked like that when i bought it...
i dont understand why you guys are picking on him, his camaro looks good, despite the hood.
It has no t-tops (that always seem to leak) it has the aeroscoop spoilers/skirts, and as far as i can see, no dents.
interior looks ok too.
about that weight reduction, if i had to choose one part to take off to reduce the weight, it would be the 3-ton hood!!!
wish my 1st camaro looked like that when i bought it...
11-12-2004, 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by 86IROCKET-Z
The only 3rd gen i've seen running around with a hood that i like is Flirtin1's
The only 3rd gen i've seen running around with a hood that i like is Flirtin1's
11-12-2004, 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by LUVmy92
Are you sure you understand what is going on here? You said it looks good, wouldnt you say it would look better with all the peices on the car? It would be a pretty decent 91-92 Camaro. Now if he bought this car and it didnt have these parts the response might be "nice car, just needs some finishing up and it will be a sweet ride!" but when you take a perfectly good car and start removing BODY parts to make it "perform" you really got to stop and ask yourself "isnt there a better way"? How about actually doing performance mods to it, you know, a cam, heads, exhaust. All of that can be done for cheap if you do your home work, do as much work yourself as possible, and bargain shop.
Are you sure you understand what is going on here? You said it looks good, wouldnt you say it would look better with all the peices on the car? It would be a pretty decent 91-92 Camaro. Now if he bought this car and it didnt have these parts the response might be "nice car, just needs some finishing up and it will be a sweet ride!" but when you take a perfectly good car and start removing BODY parts to make it "perform" you really got to stop and ask yourself "isnt there a better way"? How about actually doing performance mods to it, you know, a cam, heads, exhaust. All of that can be done for cheap if you do your home work, do as much work yourself as possible, and bargain shop.
but i read someone calling it a piece of junk, but it isnt.
11-12-2004, 01:56 PM
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Definately not a POS, just needs to rethink his strategy for going fast. Another thing, removing the hood is saving weight but I would assume it would play hell on the aerodynamics of the car.
11-12-2004, 02:23 PM
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I think the reason people are reacting the way they do is because of the completely inelegant way in which he is going about it. Any one can unbolt parts, Hotrod did it years ago with a caddy to demonstrate how much faster it would go once they cut everything off of it. If he was creative and found ways to lose weight while maintaining the functionality of the car that would be different. making it illegal to drive, removing emmissions, and making it far from practical, not good. Buy a fiberglass hood, get racing buckets, Shave door handles etc. Don't just unbolt parts and think were going to be impressed!
11-12-2004, 02:27 PM
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I see your point on the weight savings thing for the hood but what does it do to the airflow over it? Wont that disrupt it and cause alot more drag?
11-12-2004, 02:35 PM
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It's a project, what's the big deal? Those Camaro's that look like r*** that people sometimes post look worse!?!?!?!
11-12-2004, 04:25 PM
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see quote below.......
Originally posted by LUVmy92
Are you sure you understand what is going on here? It would be a pretty decent 91-92 Camaro. Now if he bought this car and it didnt have these parts the response might be "nice car, just needs some finishing up and it will be a sweet ride!" but when you take a perfectly good car and start removing BODY parts to make it "perform" you really got to stop and ask yourself "isnt there a better way"? How about actually doing performance mods to it, you know, a cam, heads, exhaust. All of that can be done for cheap if you do your home work, do as much work yourself as possible, and bargain shop.
Are you sure you understand what is going on here? It would be a pretty decent 91-92 Camaro. Now if he bought this car and it didnt have these parts the response might be "nice car, just needs some finishing up and it will be a sweet ride!" but when you take a perfectly good car and start removing BODY parts to make it "perform" you really got to stop and ask yourself "isnt there a better way"? How about actually doing performance mods to it, you know, a cam, heads, exhaust. All of that can be done for cheap if you do your home work, do as much work yourself as possible, and bargain shop.
11-12-2004, 04:28 PM
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me thinks he just made this post to start an arguement....
I like those weight reducing dice, pretty cool. Your car looks amazing without the hood, why dont you take the hatch out and drill some holes in the bottom of the floor pan so the water can drain out?
I like those weight reducing dice, pretty cool. Your car looks amazing without the hood, why dont you take the hatch out and drill some holes in the bottom of the floor pan so the water can drain out?
11-12-2004, 05:39 PM
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Ok guys some people realize what i'm doing here, some don't. That's fine.
Let me re-state the obvious. IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IT DOES NOT RAIN.
MAYBE 3 DAYS PER YEAR WE SEE A DRIZZLE.
The other point is, the car is not for looks. I could care less if it's shiny, or has nice paint or wheels or whatever. My car was 4,011lbs(!) to begin with, not a light-weight by any means, but it will be when i finish it! Goal is at least 3,011lbs.
My motorcycle has 47HP and weighs 268 lbs...
It will eat all but the gnarliest cars for lunch....but that's not the point. The effects of removing weight from my bike were dramatic, to say the least. But on a car thar literaly weighs 1000's of pounds more, you have to do alot more to get that same effect.
Let me re-state the obvious. IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IT DOES NOT RAIN.
MAYBE 3 DAYS PER YEAR WE SEE A DRIZZLE.
The other point is, the car is not for looks. I could care less if it's shiny, or has nice paint or wheels or whatever. My car was 4,011lbs(!) to begin with, not a light-weight by any means, but it will be when i finish it! Goal is at least 3,011lbs.
My motorcycle has 47HP and weighs 268 lbs...
It will eat all but the gnarliest cars for lunch....but that's not the point. The effects of removing weight from my bike were dramatic, to say the least. But on a car thar literaly weighs 1000's of pounds more, you have to do alot more to get that same effect.
11-12-2004, 05:40 PM
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Simplicity rules
11-12-2004, 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by nidyanazo
Simplicity rules
Simplicity rules
your definition of simplicity and mine are completely different
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Originally posted by Z28*****
We need not discuss your mental intellect any more.
IROCKET i've got both of you beat in the weight department.
We need not discuss your mental intellect any more.
IROCKET i've got both of you beat in the weight department.
and now i await......
11-12-2004, 06:21 PM
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Z28*****
Get a life. Homie you can't even express your self correctly, look at your writing style. Talk about intellect. Grow up.
Get a life. Homie you can't even express your self correctly, look at your writing style. Talk about intellect. Grow up.
11-12-2004, 06:22 PM
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hey are u sure your car is 4k pounds or did u just guess. becuz i weight my carat the track and the only things i dont have are a/c, emmissions, and computer. everthing else is there and with pretty much full interior with out back seats and i have a system in my car weighed 3616 with me in the car now i weigh 285. the second time i went ot the track i went i took out the subbox and amps, back seats and put on my Weld prostar rimswith dot slicks. and the car weight in at 3558 with me in the car no take away what i weigh and u get 3273. and i still have cast iron heads, water pump. and if u look at my sig thats all the stuff ive done to the car.
so now basiclly with you rippin your car to pieces to get that whole weight lose thing goin on your car why dont u think things correctly. maybe swap some lighter parts from other 3rd gens instead of just completely gettin rid of them. and then yet to start with a 305 TBI motor isnt goin to help you that much in the performance zone.
my point of view
so now basiclly with you rippin your car to pieces to get that whole weight lose thing goin on your car why dont u think things correctly. maybe swap some lighter parts from other 3rd gens instead of just completely gettin rid of them. and then yet to start with a 305 TBI motor isnt goin to help you that much in the performance zone.
my point of view
11-12-2004, 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by nidyanazo
Z28*****
Get a life. Homie you can't even express your self correctly, look at your writing style. Talk about intellect. Grow up.
Z28*****
Get a life. Homie you can't even express your self correctly, look at your writing style. Talk about intellect. Grow up.
11-12-2004, 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by nidyanazo
My motorcycle has 47HP and weighs 268 lbs...
It will eat all but the gnarliest cars for lunch....but that's not the point. The effects of removing weight from my bike were dramatic, to say the least. But on a car thar literaly weighs 1000's of pounds more, you have to do alot more to get that same effect.
My motorcycle has 47HP and weighs 268 lbs...
It will eat all but the gnarliest cars for lunch....but that's not the point. The effects of removing weight from my bike were dramatic, to say the least. But on a car thar literaly weighs 1000's of pounds more, you have to do alot more to get that same effect.
again where is the point to this? you pulled off maybe 2-3 pounds worth of stuff, trust me it didn't do squat
my buddies beat up 1980 kawasaki 2 stroke would smoke most cars on the road, just because you pull stuff off doesn't mean its gonna go faster.
you wanted opinions and your getting them, no point in trying to tell us we should like it.
11-12-2004, 06:37 PM
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again where is the point to this? you pulled off maybe 2-3 pounds worth of stuff, trust me it didn't do squat
YA WHATEVER YOU SAY DAWG. MY EFFORTS ARE FRUITLESS, WHY EVEN BOTHER.
my buddies beat up 1980 kawasaki 2 stroke would smoke most cars on the road, just because you pull stuff off doesn't mean its gonna go faster.
YOU DONT KNOW **** ABOUT MECHANICS THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL FROM WHAT YOU JUST STATED
you wanted opinions and your getting them, no point in trying to tell us we should like it
NO, SEE I DON'T CARE IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, BUT DON'T TELL ME SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLEATLY, UTTERLY, WRONG!
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Timz2882- Ya that's what the sticker said
"why dont u think things correctly" what are you saying? I HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED SPENDING $$$ ON THE DAMN THING YET! ******G S**T DOES NOBODY READ THE POSTS COMPLEATLY?
YA WHATEVER YOU SAY DAWG. MY EFFORTS ARE FRUITLESS, WHY EVEN BOTHER.
my buddies beat up 1980 kawasaki 2 stroke would smoke most cars on the road, just because you pull stuff off doesn't mean its gonna go faster.
YOU DONT KNOW **** ABOUT MECHANICS THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL FROM WHAT YOU JUST STATED
you wanted opinions and your getting them, no point in trying to tell us we should like it
NO, SEE I DON'T CARE IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, BUT DON'T TELL ME SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLEATLY, UTTERLY, WRONG!
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Timz2882- Ya that's what the sticker said
"why dont u think things correctly" what are you saying? I HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED SPENDING $$$ ON THE DAMN THING YET! ******G S**T DOES NOBODY READ THE POSTS COMPLEATLY?
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well but the stuff u have done and all youve been takin about obvisouly u havent thought things through. if youve removed things becuz they weigh too heavy and u think ur droppin tons of weight for some performace then keep takin things off. and did u even think about the arodynamics of the car now. go to a junkyard and find an early thirdgen like 82-84 some come stock with a fiberglass hood. i bet u could get it cheap. but then again why would u want to waste money right now since ur basiclly hell bent on removing pretty much everything u dont need.
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Originally posted by nidyanazo
The other point is, the car is not for looks. I could care less if it's shiny, or has nice paint or wheels or whatever.
The other point is, the car is not for looks. I could care less if it's shiny, or has nice paint or wheels or whatever.
If you're happy and you know it, lock the thread!! 
11-12-2004, 08:33 PM
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I think the real reason your project upsets everyone here is because you're taking a car, that we all love and cherish, that is now extinct, a car that we like to make perform and look the best it possibly can, a car that has a lot of potential (yours specifically, body and paint still in great condition) and you're basically making a mockery of it, tearing it apart, in ******* fashion, in search of a extremely cheap method to go faster. You already have a light, fast mode of transportation in your bike, why destroy a car that doesn't deserve it. Sell it to someone who will take proper care of it and buy a cheap honda crx instead. If this post is insulting then I'm sorry, I didn't intend it to be. None the less, you're insulting all of us with what you're doing to that car.
11-12-2004, 08:56 PM
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If its not for looks, it doesn't belong here. And with that, this mess is closed.
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