Auto Detailing and Appearance Share tips and tricks on how to make your Third Gen shine! Get opinions on products or how something tasteful looks on your Chevrolet Camaro or Pontiac Firebird.

Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-13-2004, 09:33 AM
  #1  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
 
Calderone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 87 Vette
Engine: 355/195AFR/SR/219CAM/1.6
Transmission: TH700R4/Vigilante
Axle/Gears: D44/3.45
Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

Hi guys ..ascd will be releasing bond on Hood scoops
for $110 you can have any model of scoop you want.
Im on it for sure !!!
But i can't decide i really can't decide to go with RAI or RAII
i have an 82 S/E maybe u all know

Feel free to photoshop a hood on my car
thnx !
Attached Thumbnails Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)-ph.jpg  
Old 04-13-2004, 09:48 AM
  #2  
Banned
 
nolanr0413's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 2,790
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Trans am
no, dont put a ram air hood on your car, put a powerbulge hood on your car. ANd what the hell are these scoop things, do you have a picture of what they look like.
Old 04-13-2004, 09:51 AM
  #3  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
 
Calderone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 87 Vette
Engine: 355/195AFR/SR/219CAM/1.6
Transmission: TH700R4/Vigilante
Axle/Gears: D44/3.45
yeah

I tought bout the power bulge
but ram air looks so sweet !
ascd will be releasind bond on scoops
based on the model u want
Old 04-13-2004, 09:58 AM
  #4  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Zepher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5












pics should be up soon, I am uploading my site to the new server.
Old 04-13-2004, 10:02 AM
  #5  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
 
Calderone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 87 Vette
Engine: 355/195AFR/SR/219CAM/1.6
Transmission: TH700R4/Vigilante
Axle/Gears: D44/3.45
hmmmmm

i found something's wrong with RAII
its like too much ...i donno
but i really like the agressive look it gives
But RAI flows better .....
but i think RAII will go perfect with a 92 nose
that's my plan

RAII + 92 NOSE !

Last edited by Calderone; 04-13-2004 at 10:05 AM.
Old 04-13-2004, 10:07 AM
  #6  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Zepher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
Don't forget to do the 91-92 lights,


and here is a little better shot of the hood so you can see the depth,
Old 04-13-2004, 10:50 AM
  #7  
Supreme Member

 
FruityOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Elk Grove Village, IL
Posts: 2,967
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1989 TransAm GTA
Engine: One sweet modified 355 TPI.
Transmission: The kind that shifts....
If you are dead set on a RA hood then get the RA1 hood. I've seen both in person, painted to match. The RA2 hood just does NOT fit the body of a firebird very well. looks great on 4th gens, but not on 3rd gens.

Now the Ram Air 1 hood looks pretty damn sweet.
Old 04-15-2004, 11:40 AM
  #8  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
 
Calderone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 87 Vette
Engine: 355/195AFR/SR/219CAM/1.6
Transmission: TH700R4/Vigilante
Axle/Gears: D44/3.45
i just can't

i just can't decide !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 04-15-2004, 11:57 AM
  #9  
TGO Supporter

 
Sonar_un's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '86 T/A
Engine: 350/LT1 Intake
Transmission: 700R4 - Built
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.42
<img src="http://elite-fraggers.org/sonarun/candysonar/01020037%20(Medium).JPG">

<img src="http://elite-fraggers.org/sonarun/candysonar/01020060%20(Medium).JPG"
Old 04-15-2004, 11:58 AM
  #10  
Member

 
Firebreather's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 306
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1991 GTA
Engine: SuperRam 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
RA I looks so much better (at least with the 91-92 body). That's the one I want for my GTA. Now If I were you I'd go with the power bulge. Your engine is carburated so the hood would be functional too. Anyway, pics of the scoops you're talking about would be appreciated. Hay muchos Fbodys en Chile?

Last edited by Firebreather; 04-15-2004 at 12:10 PM.
Old 04-15-2004, 12:11 PM
  #11  
Senior Member

 
SC82TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA/San Diego
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1982 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: Stock carbed 305
Transmission: Stock 200C
Yeah rarely do I think the RA II hood looks good, its just too bulky. With a 91-92 nose I think it would look bad...I think they look best with the 85-90 TA noses with the gfx, that gives it a more muscular look. The RA II hodd just looks like a flat hood with two big bulky humps just growing out of it, the RA I on the other hand is more sculpted and I think it just flows a lot better. However I love my power bulge =)

Old 04-15-2004, 03:32 PM
  #12  
Supreme Member

 
FlyinLow89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,091
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1995 Formula/2001 GTP
Engine: 5.7 LT1/3.8 Supercharged
I personally would go with neither. but if you gotta choose one I think the RAI looks good on thirdgens. I think the II looks hideous (doesnt match the car at all)
And if you do get a 91/92 nose, I actually really like the RA I on them!
Old 04-15-2004, 03:53 PM
  #13  
Banned
 
nolanr0413's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 2,790
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Trans am
i think the powerbulge hood is the way to go , it looks good and will fit the best , and it will look good if you decide to go with the 91-92 nose.
Old 04-15-2004, 05:21 PM
  #14  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (7)
 
Kandied91z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: michigan
Posts: 13,039
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
which is which....the 98+ firebird lookalike hood looks so good and flows so well with it's 98+ body style. it looks completely out of place and rather odd on 3rdgens but it's just my opinion...you want clean, classy style go with the lesser of the two. if your looking to really stand out go with the obvious one.

those things look even worse on camaros...
Old 04-16-2004, 07:13 PM
  #15  
Supreme Member

 
ES87iroc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Your neighbor's hood, MD
Posts: 2,228
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1987 Camaro Z28 IROC-Z
Engine: 5.7L TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42:1
RAI or formula hood. IMHO RAII looks too overstated and does not suit the thirdgen cars at all. $.02...
Old 04-16-2004, 08:04 PM
  #16  
Supreme Member

 
85maroz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Olean NY USA
Posts: 1,648
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1985 Camaro Z28/1989 Pontiac Trans Am GTA
Engine: 305 tpi/350tpi
Transmission: 700r4
RA I if anything!
Old 04-16-2004, 09:21 PM
  #17  
Supreme Member

 
Orinackra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,374
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 06 SRM M6 GTO, 98 Grand Prix GTP
RA 1 all the way!!!
Attached Thumbnails Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)-0501561265.jpg  
Old 04-17-2004, 04:38 AM
  #18  
Member

 
joekickass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Taiwan (Not China)
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1989 Firebird V6
Engine: 2.8
Transmission: auto
For showing the car, Ram II!! Ram I lookd like a flatten nostril on hood and the piece close to the windshield is too wide, Ram II design maybe doesn't fit the 3gen but definitely looks aggressive, so...

1. Power bulge = smooth and fit
2. Ram I = oh,you got a new hood and ....
3. Ram II = Wow, what a hood!!

For the 3gen owner in Taiwan, I feel so exciting to know ASCD will make Ram Ii scoop, I will definitely buy one!!! :rockon:
Old 04-20-2004, 12:12 AM
  #19  
Junior Member
 
Rob91GTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Warwick, RI
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 GTA
Engine: 5.0 TPI LB9
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
I am highly debating this too. My hood has a dent that can't be banged out so eventually I plan on getting another hood. I'de like to get something different than stock. I am not entirely fond of the Ram Air I hood. The Ram Air II....I always wondered if it "fit" the 3rd gen cars. I am getting that I am not the only one that thinks that. I love the agressive look, but in some pics it seems too bulky looking. Like the ram air part is very high. I have never seen one on a car before so it's tough judging solely by pictures. This is a tough decision!! Plus there is the fitment issues too. Is that the case with all RAII hoods from the few companies that manufacture them?

Maybe I should just stay with a stock hood!! lol
Old 04-20-2004, 09:38 AM
  #20  
Member
 
123jon321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Kenner, La
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '86 iroc
Engine: lb9 305
Transmission: 700r4
Simple,
Ra2 + 85-90 gfx = GOOOOOD,
Ra2 + 82-84/91-92 gfx = BAAAAAAD,

Follow this simple equation and you will never go wrong, atleast in my eyes
Old 04-20-2004, 01:56 PM
  #21  
Senior Member

 
GASGZLR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 784
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28 5.7 G92
Engine: L98 Tuned Port Injection
Transmission: TH700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Posi G80
I say if you are going for people's reaction, here's what I think when I see these cars:

LT1 Fomula/TA with the ram air 1= wonder if that Firebird is even a V8.

Ram air 2 on the LS1 cars= Wow a WS6 with the big 4 nostrils! Those cars are quick.
Old 04-20-2004, 05:11 PM
  #22  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
Abubaca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: JAMESTOWN, NC
Posts: 8,367
Received 348 Likes on 275 Posts
Car: 1988 Iroc
Engine: L98 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Hawks 8.8 - 3.73
lookalike hood looks so good
Say THAT 5 times fast!


I think the RA2 hood is ridiculous.

The RA1 looks OK, but the power bulge looks best. It's almost like the RA2 hood belongs on a fourth gen. If there were a way to put both onto 1 hood, I'm sure one of you guys would figure out how.
Old 04-20-2004, 05:51 PM
  #23  
Moderator

iTrader: (57)
 
Steve86TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Annapolis Maryland
Posts: 1,149
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 12 Posts
Car: To many to list
If those are your only 2 choices,I would go with the I.The II just dosent flow with a third gen body lines
Old 04-20-2004, 08:09 PM
  #24  
Supreme Member

 
Orinackra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,374
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 06 SRM M6 GTO, 98 Grand Prix GTP
Originally posted by Abubaca
If there were a way to put both onto 1 hood, I'm sure one of you guys would figure out how.
Well now that you mention it......



Old 04-20-2004, 08:38 PM
  #25  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
Abubaca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: JAMESTOWN, NC
Posts: 8,367
Received 348 Likes on 275 Posts
Car: 1988 Iroc
Engine: L98 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Hawks 8.8 - 3.73
What, no pic?
Old 10-30-2022, 02:13 PM
  #26  
Junior Member
 
1985RATA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 8
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

Originally Posted by Calderone
Hi guys ..ascd will be releasing bond on Hood scoops
for $110 you can have any model of scoop you want.
Im on it for sure !!!
But i can't decide i really can't decide to go with RAI or RAII
i have an 82 S/E maybe u all know

Feel free to photoshop a hood on my car
thnx !
why not go with this one of a kind gta hood

Old 10-30-2022, 07:02 PM
  #27  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (4)
 
CharcoalBird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Plant City, FL
Posts: 2,439
Received 71 Likes on 47 Posts
Car: 1991 Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Re: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

Why would they go with that when it wasn't available in 2004? Did you make it yourself? Where did you get it if not?
The following users liked this post:
1985RATA (10-31-2022)
Old 10-31-2022, 01:13 AM
  #28  
COTM Editor

iTrader: (22)
 
QwkTrip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 9,932
Likes: 0
Received 1,860 Likes on 1,274 Posts
Car: '89 Firebird
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: T56
Re: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

CharcoalBird is a recovering Ram Air II hood user. He's been clean since 2021 and now has an outreach program to other active users. It's been a good thing, we're all proud of him and the cars he is building now. The main thing that RAII users need to know is it doesn't just affect you, it's really difficult on everybody that knows you and has to watch it happen.

Last edited by QwkTrip; 10-31-2022 at 01:21 AM.
The following 2 users liked this post by QwkTrip:
maks10 (11-08-2022), Whitebird75 (11-01-2022)
Old 10-31-2022, 11:16 AM
  #29  
Junior Member
 
1985RATA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 8
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

Originally Posted by CharcoalBird
Why would they go with that when it wasn't available in 2004? Did you make it yourself? Where did you get it if not?
Not sure what you mean by 2004??? The car wasn't produced in 2004 but to answer your question... I modified the hood myself & made it Ram Air functional & yes it's one of a kind & for sale... Make me an offer if interested
Old 10-31-2022, 11:42 AM
  #30  
COTM Editor

iTrader: (22)
 
QwkTrip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 9,932
Likes: 0
Received 1,860 Likes on 1,274 Posts
Car: '89 Firebird
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: T56
Re: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

He's just poking at you that the last reply to this thread was from 2004....
Old 10-31-2022, 12:24 PM
  #31  
Junior Member
 
1985RATA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 8
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

Oh I never even noticed... LOL that's funny... Ma bad!
Old 11-01-2022, 07:23 PM
  #32  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (4)
 
CharcoalBird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Plant City, FL
Posts: 2,439
Received 71 Likes on 47 Posts
Car: 1991 Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Re: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

Originally Posted by QwkTrip
CharcoalBird is a recovering Ram Air II hood user. He's been clean since 2021 and now has an outreach program to other active users. It's been a good thing, we're all proud of him and the cars he is building now. The main thing that RAII users need to know is it doesn't just affect you, it's really difficult on everybody that knows you and has to watch it happen.
Yes, this is the truth. One issue though is that I still own that Ram Air II hood and you never when I could relapse.

Originally Posted by 1985RATA
Not sure what you mean by 2004??? The car wasn't produced in 2004 but to answer your question... I modified the hood myself & made it Ram Air functional & yes it's one of a kind & for sale... Make me an offer if interested
Yes, just a small poke at the 2004 date. The other questions were serious though. Great work. Would like to see it on-car.
The following users liked this post:
1985RATA (11-01-2022)
Old 11-01-2022, 07:42 PM
  #33  
COTM Editor

iTrader: (22)
 
QwkTrip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 9,932
Likes: 0
Received 1,860 Likes on 1,274 Posts
Car: '89 Firebird
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: T56
Re: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

Originally Posted by CharcoalBird
Yes, this is the truth. One issue though is that I still own that Ram Air II hood and you never when I could relapse.
Not worried, your custom made Formula hood is pretty darn cool. Car looks fantastic now!
Old 11-02-2022, 05:51 PM
  #34  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (4)
 
CharcoalBird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Plant City, FL
Posts: 2,439
Received 71 Likes on 47 Posts
Car: 1991 Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Re: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

Originally Posted by QwkTrip
Not worried, your custom made Formula hood is pretty darn cool. Car looks fantastic now!
Thank you. That hood may end up on my Formula if I ever get around to working on it .
Old 01-18-2023, 03:07 AM
  #35  
Junior Member
 
annamartino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)

That's the one I want for my GTA. Now If I were you I'd go with the power bulge. Your engine is carburated so the hood would be functional too.

Last edited by annamartino; 01-18-2023 at 11:42 AM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
87CIZ
Auto Detailing and Appearance
32
03-14-2005 07:05 AM
doc76239
Body
35
12-16-2004 09:50 AM
swisscheese
Auto Detailing and Appearance
10
12-02-2004 01:23 PM
Zokal
Auto Detailing and Appearance
9
10-25-2004 09:06 AM
LedZep
Auto Detailing and Appearance
41
05-27-2003 08:15 PM



Quick Reply: Help me decide ....Ram air I or Ram air II (Photoshop request)



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:13 PM.