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Old 06-24-2015, 08:53 PM
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

Still waiting on my HSR to ship.. I have my fuel rail kit (PCE139.1011), die grinder and burrs for porting the intake, and fuel pressure regulator (PCE139.1011). Anything else I'm missing that I'll need? Just coming from a stock l98 right now.

I read I'll also need a 45 degree waterneck, found this one for $25. What are you guys using??
http://www.xtremerpm.com/Edelbrock/P...FRCqaQod_DAA7A

Also, if the large cap distributor doesn't work what are you guys using in place of this that will fit? Or can you modify the large cap to work?

Any suggestions on a fuel pressure gauge for the regulator?
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

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Still waiting on my HSR to ship.. I have my fuel rail kit (PCE139.1011), die grinder and burrs for porting the intake, and fuel pressure regulator (PCE139.1011). Anything else I'm missing that I'll need? Just coming from a stock l98 right now.

I read I'll also need a 45 degree waterneck, found this one for $25. What are you guys using??
http://www.xtremerpm.com/Edelbrock/P...FRCqaQod_DAA7A

Also, if the large cap distributor doesn't work what are you guys using in place of this that will fit? Or can you modify the large cap to work?

Any suggestions on a fuel pressure gauge for the regulator?
You will more than likely be needing bigger injectors depending on your cam choice. The waterneck, most of the info ive found recommends using a water neck and upper radiator hose for a tbi camaro. A distributor for a 87-92 camaro will have the small cap you need to clear the intake.
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

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You will more than likely be needing bigger injectors depending on your cam choice. The waterneck, most of the info ive found recommends using a water neck and upper radiator hose for a tbi camaro. A distributor for a 87-92 camaro will have the small cap you need to clear the intake.
That's good to know, I didn't know about the distributor for a 87-92 camaro working so I guess mine will work then with being an 88. I've got a Comp 280XFI cam but no heads yet. I was thinking of going with afr 195's but have also been reading some good things about profiler 195 heads and there cheaper. Would Accel 30lb injectors work? I know I've read some people have had fitment issues with the bosch injectors.
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

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That's good to know, I didn't know about the distributor for a 87-92 camaro working so I guess mine will work then with being an 88. I've got a Comp 280XFI cam but no heads yet. I was thinking of going with afr 195's but have also been reading some good things about profiler 195 heads and there cheaper. Would Accel 30lb injectors work? I know I've read some people have had fitment issues with the bosch injectors.
with the comp 280XFI cam and stock heads id go with 24# injectors FORD RACING are easy to find and i believe are better quality than Venom or Accel injectors. but honestly i dont know how well stock heads will handle .570" of lift, valve springs are a must and at .570 lift you will pay a pretty penny for a good set of valve springs. Now with the 280XFI cam and 195cc heads run 30# injectors, again i know FORD RACING injectors are inexpensive and decent quality. check to see what lift the valve spring in the 195cc heads are rated at to see if you need to upgrade them. most good aftermarkets heads are rated to .575" or .600" lift
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

can anyone tell me the size of the vacuum ports on the back of the Chinese plenum? is it 3/8 and 1/4 or 1/8?
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

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can anyone tell me the size of the vacuum ports on the back of the Chinese plenum? is it 3/8 and 1/4 or 1/8?
Two 3/8" and two 1/8" (and of course the IAT/MAT on the bottom)

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with the comp 280XFI cam and stock heads id go with 24# injectors FORD RACING are easy to find and i believe are better quality than Venom or Accel injectors. but honestly i dont know how well stock heads will handle .570" of lift, valve springs are a must and at .570 lift you will pay a pretty penny for a good set of valve springs. Now with the 280XFI cam and 195cc heads run 30# injectors, again i know FORD RACING injectors are inexpensive and decent quality. check to see what lift the valve spring in the 195cc heads are rated at to see if you need to upgrade them. most good aftermarkets heads are rated to .575" or .600" lift
I ended up going for some 30# Accel injectors, I got a good deal on them. Looking at the 195cc profilers they have a spring upgrade for $70 to take them to .650 lift - 1.525 Dual Hydraulic Roller Springs, steel retainers. I would think those should work.


Originally Posted by anesthes
Two 3/8" and two 1/8" (and of course the IAT/MAT on the bottom)

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Do these hook up to the stock vacuum ports right?
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

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Do these hook up to the stock vacuum ports right?

Sure, if you have a stock car.
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

ok I have yet to find any fittings that fit in the vacuum ports in the back of the plenum I ordered 3/8 and 1/8 fittings and I think I have made the 1/8 work but the 3/8 didn't fit went to the hardware store and couldn't find any fittings that fit either so I thought I would buy a tap and just tap it to the right thread and the 3/8 tap is way to small I guess the size on taps are different or something its more like a 5/8 tap size which the hardware store didn't have any of just my luck can someone send me a link to something that will fit or a tap that will rethread it to the standard size fittings I can buy thanks for any help guys.
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

Where can I buy one of these intakes? There not on eBay anymore. Also can they be ported to a 1206?
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Where can I buy one of these intakes? There not on eBay anymore. Also can they be ported to a 1206?
i think if you order one from Jeg's, the next time they make them, Jeg's will have it shipped straight from the factory.
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What do I search for on jegs website to find them
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What do I search for on jegs website to find them
http://www.jegs.com/i/Speedmaster/74....1048/10002/-1

I ordered mine in early June and still haven't received it.
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

I bought my intake when they first came out. Nice intake but I still havent had time to install it yet. Got a new engine on the stand this intake will be tested on. Almost went a different route but I didnt.
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I'm actually almost ready to install mine finally. I've been doing a lot of suspension work. In order to get the injectors to seat in there (I'm using LS6 injectors on my 406), I had to use a 3/4" drill bit to create a recess for the injector to sit in. My rails were about 1/8" too high. I didn't disturb the sealing surface, just put a 1/8" step for the injector to seat in. Everything fits perfectly now.
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Order Today Ships 11/30/15 according to jegs
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

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Order Today Ships 11/30/15 according to jegs
That's a joke, I've been waiting for mine since June!
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I've emailed procomp a few times (now called Speedmaster), and they told em 6 weeks out each time.

They might show up to market again one day, but it sounds like they do small production runs.

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http://www.revsauto.com/Speedmaster/...er=ASC&page=21

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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

I was curious so I contacted Speedway and they said, at this time, no ETA. I am not sure if that is better or worse than 6 weeks over and over again.
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I was curious so I contacted Speedway and they said, at this time, no ETA. I am not sure if that is better or worse than 6 weeks over and over again.
Very odd. Maybe they are too busy casting other manifolds...

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Very odd. Maybe they are too busy casting other manifolds...

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maybe soone will wake up over there and relize there is a demand for them.
i almost want to sell mine off and put one of there itb intakes on the car
not sure if it would clear my 4 inch hood with the plenum ontop of the stacks though, and im not about to cut up my brand new just painted hood either.

lol should have just bought the outlaw 6 inch hood the first time around
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My other thought is that there is a production issue of some sort.
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heres another option for some of u that is well priced
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBC-Aluminum...tWU4g4&vxp=mtr

and this is the intake im thinking about switching to
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-SBC-35...JWltns&vxp=mtr

or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-SBC-35...ZV1SgZ&vxp=mtr

id prolly go with the black one
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Re: new Chinese 285$ hsr

Wow, that seems like a great price on that single plane EFI setup. It's too bad it isn't the dual bolt pattern for the Vortec heads.
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Wow, that seems like a great price on that single plane EFI setup. It's too bad it isn't the dual bolt pattern for the Vortec heads.
i belive they have a vortec patterned one as well
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Originally Posted by project89
i belive they have a vortec patterned one as well
I found it, not in a kit, but putting the pieces together (manifold, throttle body, and fuel rails) is $507.30 Probably nickel and dime you up a fair amount to actually put it on the car, though.
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I found it, not in a kit, but putting the pieces together (manifold, throttle body, and fuel rails) is $507.30 Probably nickel and dime you up a fair amount to actually put it on the car, though.
probably another 50-150 bucks in misc fuel line parts is all u should really need
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Originally Posted by project89
probably another 50-150 bucks in misc fuel line parts is all u should really need
Throttle cable and bracket? TV cable if running a 700R4? I figure that a stock one wouldn't work so you'd need something like a Lokar setup.

Fuel lines would, I assume, cost about the same between either of the intakes.

Probably not the place for the question, but I would think you'd at very least want a '730 ECM and probably better to get EBL or something like that.
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Throttle cable and bracket? TV cable if running a 700R4? I figure that a stock one wouldn't work so you'd need something like a Lokar setup.

Fuel lines would, I assume, cost about the same between either of the intakes.

Probably not the place for the question, but I would think you'd at very least want a '730 ECM and probably better to get EBL or something like that.

if ur starting with a tpi motor u could more then likley reuse the cable , or u woud need to grab a carb or tbi one , im not sure what i woud do for the bracket , but that shouldnt be to hard to figure out , the linkage for the tv cable could be a small issue though
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I ran the singleplane for a while. It's very tall..

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I asked/Told Edelbrock to make a Vortec Head version of their 7110 Edelbrock Street Tunnel Ram manifold Years ago. They had no plans at the time to produce this.
Would have only required minor casting core box modifications to do it.

Make it fit and bolt onto a Vortec head. Make it a Universal manifold with port height and bolts holes to fit both head styles. Add blank Injector bosses to the casting for EFI or Nitrous.

Now SpeedMaster79 has jumped in with a Weiand Hi ram Stealth ram knockoff and cannot make the FAST enough..
Cannot wait for them to knock off the Edelbrock Street Tunnel Ram, (in a vortec pattern or universal version) They wil sell every one they can cast Just like I told Edelbrock years ago.

The TRX style Eddy Street Tunnel Ram and the Vortec Etec/Fastburn/Vortec bowtie heads are a good match up for street strip bracket racing.

Would take very little to modify Upgrade their existing Casting cores for production.
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I asked/Told Edelbrock to make a Vortec Head version of their 7110 Edelbrock Street Tunnel Ram manifold Years ago. They had no plans at the time to produce this.
Would have only required minor casting core box modifications to do it.

Make it fit and bolt onto a Vortec head. Make it a Universal manifold with port height and bolts holes to fit both head styles. Add blank Injector bosses to the casting for EFI or Nitrous.

Now SpeedMaster79 has jumped in with a Weiand Hi ram Stealth ram knockoff and cannot make the FAST enough..
Cannot wait for them to knock off the Edelbrock Street Tunnel Ram, (in a vortec pattern or universal version) They wil sell every one they can cast Just like I told Edelbrock years ago.

The TRX style Eddy Street Tunnel Ram and the Vortec Etec/Fastburn/Vortec bowtie heads are a good match up for street strip bracket racing.

Would take very little to modify Upgrade their existing Casting cores for production.
I'm not convinced they are actually still making them at all.. They might have ceased.

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I'm not convinced they are actually still making them at all.. They might have ceased.

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Looks like the price went up to $206 now as well. I paid $200

http://www.jegs.com/i/Speedmaster/74....1048/10002/-1

Also says on the page now "Manufacturer's Availability Date Unknown". Never saw that before on the page either. Must be from everyone asking about when they will be available.
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Looks like the price went up to $206 now as well. I paid $200

http://www.jegs.com/i/Speedmaster/74....1048/10002/-1

Also says on the page now "Manufacturer's Availability Date Unknown". Never saw that before on the page either. Must be from everyone asking about when they will be available.
I'm probably going to be selling mine soon, but mine is welded, and milled to cover 1206 ports.

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I'm probably going to be selling mine soon, but mine is welded, and milled to cover 1206 ports.

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pm me when ur ready to sell it , ill prolly take it
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Looks like the price went up to $206 now as well. I paid $200

http://www.jegs.com/i/Speedmaster/74....1048/10002/-1

Also says on the page now "Manufacturer's Availability Date Unknown". Never saw that before on the page either. Must be from everyone asking about when they will be available.
I'd pay 206, or the original 285 for it... it would just be nice if they would produce it!
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I'd pay 206, or the original 285 for it... it would just be nice if they would produce it!
How interested are you ?

I switched to a miniram on my 412, so mine is available for sale. The lower has been welded (to cover a 1206 port) and machined, and painted orange. The upper is polished.

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How interested are you ?

I switched to a miniram on my 412, so mine is available for sale. The lower has been welded (to cover a 1206 port) and machined, and painted orange. The upper is polished.

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Project89 has first dibs and I think the mods would fit him better. I mostly want one because it would be about the cheapest way to get a Vortec motor into my car.
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Project89 has first dibs and I think the mods would fit him better. I mostly want one because it would be about the cheapest way to get a Vortec motor into my car.
Vortec?

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Vortec?

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If I am not mistaken, the manifold has the bosses for the Vortec holes that just need to be drilled.
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If I am not mistaken, the manifold has the bosses for the Vortec holes that just need to be drilled.
Not that I can see. I can match it up to some vortec heads tomorrow but.. I don't see any bosses.

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I see what you mean. It's got a raised cast flat spot. I have a polished vortec intake in my office looking at it and I see, you just drill straight down.



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My understanding is that those flat pads on each corner of the intake can be drilled for the Vortec bolt pattern.

See what Speedmaster lists for the Vortec EFI intake: http://store.speedmaster79.com/p-387...-manifold.aspx

I have zero personal knowledge of this

*edit* from this thread: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/alte...ml#post5738786

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Not that I can see. I can match it up to some vortec heads tomorrow but.. I don't see any bosses.

Edit:

I see what you mean. It's got a raised cast flat spot. I have a polished vortec intake in my office looking at it and I see, you just drill straight down.



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LOL, I like how you have a polished Vortec manifold just hanging out in your office
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LOL, I like how you have a polished Vortec manifold just hanging out in your office
I've got enough parts in the shop, the house, etc to build another 12 second car.

I just don't have enough time to build stuff.

Eventually I'll have a blowout sale.

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Project89 has first dibs and I think the mods would fit him better. I mostly want one because it would be about the cheapest way to get a Vortec motor into my car.
i passed i just spent a **** ton of money on other projects not relizing he would be selling the intake so soon
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I'm probably going to be selling mine soon, but mine is welded, and milled to cover 1206 ports.

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How much would you sell it for? For just the Intake? With it being 1206 port would that fit Profiler 195 heads?
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How much would you sell it for? For just the Intake? With it being 1206 port would that fit Profiler 195 heads?
Link to my sale:

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Does anyone know if the bolt pattern for this HSR fits the AFR 1040 heads or 1041's better? Thanks!
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I saw this on eBay today. I am not associated with the company, and I don't know anything more than what the ad says. I do know for under $200 this is intriguing...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-SBC-35...xXPpgV&vxp=mtr


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