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Old 02-28-2015, 12:23 PM
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I have to agree with John in RI. There was a thread (maybe this one) where some wheel were late getting to the buyer. I tried to do a little math in my head, and account for the shipping season (Christmas), export to Canada, etc. I was just hoping there was a good explanation. But it did not work out that way.

Then the flood of others stepping up who had troubles...just sad to see all around, but especially for the buyers of course.
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I have bought a few things from them , and have been happy with what I bought.
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Very well stated. I have been hoping for a moderator to step up and address the issue but the only one I have seen do so defended Denny and stated "the thousands of successful transactions in the past make up for any issues he is having now, and the current issues are easily explainable." That post and several others were all deleted in the Thirdgen Fest thread because they spoke ill of TGR and Denny. That might not be the right spot for it, but I feel people who might be sending him $40 soon for Thirdgen Fest registration need to know who they are sending their money to. I am truly shocked and disappointed that the site has not stepped up to back it's members and continues to support Denny and TGR through inaction.

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I've been watching this for months. In years past I would not hesitate for a second to send a payment to ThirdGenRanch, now there's NO WAY I would risk it. At first I really expected to see Denny Post with some type of explanation. After a few weeks had passed I saw that this wasn't a single ( or even a couple) isolated bad deal(s) or the result of a transaction that failed due to some unexplained / unpreventable circumstance. We're witnessing MANY bad transactions involving thousands of dollars and repeated offenses perpetrated on multiple respected - and worldwide - TGO members.

Mods need to get involved, and I don't mean by just moderating the (abusive) negative comments from members that got screwed over. So much time has passed and yet there has been ZERO effort made by ThirdgenRanch to account for ANY of the MANY accusations of fraud that our membership has made against him. I'm a long-time & die-hard Thirdgen fanatic, ALWAYS had nothing but respect for Denny and TGR; no longer. While he may have been a ThirdGen hero at one time, things change - and they have changed - and it's not for the better. He has now joined the ranks of "SweatPea" and the other less-than-reputable sellers that have disgraced themselves here over the years.

While I can understand the desire to 'stand-up' for a buddy or to 'back-up' someone that you have done fair business with in the past, But while the positive feedback for past performance is reasonable & justified,..... how can any of you simply disregard current events ? My guess is that anyone still defending Denny hasn't sent him hundreds of dollars - for nothing. Respectable actions of the past do NOT trump the fraud occurring today.

I waited a long time to inject my opinion here,... The entire time I watched these threads I HONESTLY hoped that I would open them to find a valid - even if it wasn't a good - explanation for recent ThirdGen Ranch troubles,..... but it never happened and I'm at the point where I don't think it will happen. Such contempt for our community is inexcusable and unacceptable, and so is the lack of support for those members that have been defrauded.

Please understand: when those that have been screwed over recall their horror stories about ThirdGenRanch to people at local car shows and across the web,..... TGO WILL be included in those conversations. I've already had people ask me about it when visiting my place in recent weeks. For those that know Denny personally, maybe you could try and persuade him to polish up his tainted reputation by addressing his recent troubles. Regardless of how this post is interpreted I am STILL hoping that ThirdGen Ranch/Denny can somehow restore (some of) it's lost credibility because right now,..........


Good luck to all those still without resolution to their failed dealings with ThirdGenRanch. I really hope things are made right for you folks.




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Understand that ThirdGen Ranch is not a sponsor on TGO and hasn't been for some 2 years now. ThirdGen Ranch is not allowed to sell on TGO and if they are, it hasn't been reported it to us.

The posts that I've read indicate that ThirdGen Ranch is advertising and selling on Craigslist, as of current, and also through Facebook. As you may know, we have no control over content outside of TGO. There is very little we can do about ThirdGen Ranch advertising and selling outside of TGO.

As ThirdGen Ranch is not a sponsor on TGO, and I'm unaware of them actively selling on TGO, about the only option we have is to contact Denny to request a reply over the claims that have been made with an urge to make things right. That would entirely depend on Denny making the right choice. Or, as John said, local members that know Denny, and have supported Denny, could also step up and discuss the issue with Denny as it's in the interest of everyone involved to make things right. In that regard, I think the latter option - local members who have known and supported Denny step in and discuss the mounting concerns surrounding ThirdGen Ranch - will have a far greater chance of resolution.

The only moderation we have performed is removing the discussions in the ThirdGen Fest forum as there is a proper place for things. There are multiple threads here in the Aftermarket section, which is an appropriate section, and the posts I seen in the ThirdGen Fest forum reflect that people on both sides are well aware. This is not being biased for ThirdGen Ranch but is inline with disallowing the forums to be taken over with cross-posting. Again, there is proper places for specific topics and discussions. This has also been applied to either side - those who support Denny and those who do not.

Given the mounting concerns with increasing reports of failed transaction and that Denny has not addressed them to the community, I do feel that we should probably remove the ThirdGen Fest section as I don't think we can "support" the ThirdGen Fest via advertising it through a forum, operated by Denny, with so many failed transactions and that Denny has yet to address.

I know some will be upset, but you must understand that ThirdGen Ranch is not a sponsor on TGO and does not actively, to our knowledge, use our forums to sell as they are doing so through Craigslist and Facebook and so we have very little control over what is occurring. If ThirdGen Ranch is selling on our forums, we need to be given that information so that we can take appropriate action. Beyond that, we're providing this space - the Aftermarket Vendor section - for members to report any concerns so that other members can be aware. I'm not sure there is a lot we can do when we have no relation or involvement with ThirdGen Ranch.

Originally Posted by rdhanded2
Very well stated. I have been hoping for a moderator to step up and address the issue but the only one I have seen do so defended Denny and stated "the thousands of successful transactions in the past make up for any issues he is having now, and the current issues are easily explainable." That post and several others were all deleted in the Thirdgen Fest thread because they spoke ill of TGR and Denny. That might not be the right spot for it, but I feel people who might be sending him $40 soon for Thirdgen Fest registration need to know who they are sending their money to. I am truly shocked and disappointed that the site has not stepped up to back it's members and continues to support Denny and TGR through inaction.
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Thank you for responding. I have not seen him selling on here but had read the moderator posts in the Thirdgen Fest thread defending his business practices and that was incredibly concerning to me. This clears the air for me and I am sure others as to where you stand, and I hope the rest of the site moderators are on board with your position as some were not before.
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I was the mod who stood up to defend him. I was not excusing his behavior in any way. I was merely holding out for something logical to come out to explain this mess. When someone has done so many great things for the community and had a ton of issue free transactions over the years...its hard to believe things like this could occur.

And for those that think the mods were doing nothing...I have been actively trying to figure this out offline with Denny. I have a vested interest in this board and our local community...just wanted to put that out there so you guys know the mods are trying to figure it out behind the scenes also.
Old 03-05-2015, 10:54 AM
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I aksed him in the same tread where my wheels are and why i dont get a reply from him. Of course he just ignored my post.


Like i wrote before i have fully payed four wheels including shipping and tax LAST YEAR in April and till now i only got two wheels i cant use. One front and one rear.
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Dude is fraud and crook.. no WAY you can post on facebook all day and can't take time to reply to E-mails and calls, and provide your customers tracking #'s.

I think it's been long enough (almost a year) and enough members (I count around 10) who have been ripped off to say it's time to take 3rd gen fest off the site.. and anyone owed money should go there and forget the "entrance fee" and take your parts or money off Denny.
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They did remove the Thirdgen Fest thread from gatherings
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Nice - if I was owed money from him, I would crash 3rd gen fest lol.. I'd take my parts needed off his car if I had too.
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Originally Posted by padak
Nice - if I was owed money from him, I would crash 3rd gen fest lol.. I'd take my parts needed off his car if I had too.
That Denny is so full of ****. He is one of those dudes that acts so innocent and has one excuse after another for everything.
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Hey Mister A.M. in your post they were talking about the event. It is still on and will be on Saturday and then nothing. When is that going to happen ? Like padak said if he owes you money show up at his fest.
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Still think it's highly unlikely there will be any kind of gathering at his place besides a mob with torches and pitchforks. He's just running the scam as long as he can. I'll bet money he is moving before summer.
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Perhaps he selects his victims by distance and the unlikely possibility that they would travel that far for vengeance I mean a refund.
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All of the negativity is good for business? Guess I got it all wrong.......
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Originally Posted by 91ls1t56
Hey Mister A.M. in your post they were talking about the event. It is still on and will be on Saturday and then nothing. When is that going to happen ? Like padak said if he owes you money show up at his fest.

lol that wasn't me talking. I wouldn't talk to him like that and he still owes me money. I posted under those comments where my wheels are and got no reply. He ignores me. I live in Germany and have payed 280 bucks just for shipping alone. If i would live in the states i would have visit him and take my parts long time ago.
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Originally Posted by 91ls1t56
Perhaps he selects his victims by distance and the unlikely possibility that they would travel that far for vengeance I mean a refund.

I got the same impression. I m from Germany.
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Has anyone heard ANYTHING from them at all about any of their complaints?
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Originally Posted by 9D1BURD
Has anyone heard ANYTHING from them at all about any of their complaints?
No. Straight up NOTHING!!

You order something and he is quick to process payment, sends you an e-mail stating it's "shipped" with no tracking. You reply asking for tracking and get no reply.

People have done the following, with no luck.

Calls & Voice mails - Unanswered and not returned.
E-mails, he replies quickly until you ask for tracking...
Facebook - you make a post on ANYTHING like the fest or products, it's QUICKLY replied too... you make any mention of wanting a return or where is your part, the post is deleted.

What else is there left to do but show up at his house.. that is how one poster got his parts.. I understand some are over-seas, maybe someone going to the fest can help out all these people...
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Small claims court. File and access him the fees. If you win and he does not pay get a citation for declaration of assets ($30 in my County). He has to to come to court and explain why he has not paid as well as show all assets he has. If no show he is held in contempt of court and there is a warrant issued for his attest. If he still will not pay there is one final court appearance and they can garnish his wages, bank accounts, tax returns, business, etc. And he will be responsible for all court costs as long as you ask for it. Sucks to jump through hoops and have to do it but its the only legal recourse there is. I am in the middle of it with another person for $1700+ fees.
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If I was owed a large enough amount for it to be worth it like some of the members here I would travel to 3rd gen fest to give him a face to face reminder of what I am owed and one LAST attempt to collect and make it right.

If that doesn't work, file police report in his area, file small claims court, have EVERYONE owed money file small claims court against him, hopefully all on different days, he will have so many court dates it will shut him down lol

Would this qualify as a class action lawsuit? Is ThirdGen Ranch an LLC? If not, you can go after his house and personal cars as assets if you win in court.
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A lot of times unfortunately the police will not file a Police report for a civil matter, which I think is a joke.
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They can make a "report", but can't press any charges. A "report" looks better in court as it shows you at least attempted to go to the police. Usually if someone is in the wrong or filling a false claim they don't contact the police.

So what do you do when a "business" does something like this. It doesn't matter if you paid with paypal or not, because this isn't just some eBay or Forum transaction, this guy claims to be a "business" and has an online website. I would open disputes of payment with credit card company, bank, etc whoever is needed to stop/reverse the payment. The money will then get sucked out of his account. If it's too late for that, then small claims court it is.

It's an easy win because in "civil" cases you just have to tip the scales in your favor 51% to 49% and Judge could award you the case. So, all anyone from here has to provide is the confirmation E-mail where he took payment, said "shipped", etc. and their bank receipt of funds taken. It's on the business/seller to PROVE they sent it, not the buyer to PROVE they didn't receive it.
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In Sangamon County they would not even make a report. Flat out refused. So did the Illinois State Police.
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something has to be going on... why would he want to risk loosing out on so many customers/repeat/new. It sounds like he has the opportunity (not screwing people) to do pretty damn good business wise. Unless as posted above, that he is making one last move to get as much cash and then move away...He is permanently screwing his company's name and his own name.. if that is his real name. I have friends who have successful businesses and there reputation is number one. Just one neg comment can cost you thousands. It doesn't make sense to me.... anyone know how old the guy is? Maybe he is getting ready to pull the retirement pin..... and doesnt care anymore. but if he has kids you would think that they would want to take over... Reading these posts if I was him or was told about them sure would make me show some kind of reaction or response... Makes me glad that I have a complete car but feel bad for those who dont and are poring blood sweat and tears and money into there 3rdgens to express who they are and what they like, and then get stiffed by a guy who seems not to care about anyone but himself. maybe he has read these and is scared? coward...... pull em up and make things right. I sure would want to turn it around asap if it was my company.... rant over.
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Not sure how this factors into this but quite a few years back I had a buyer from South Dakota buy a pro-touring Monte Carlo from me-it was a pretty serious build too-he asked a million questions about it over a 2-week period online through Ebay-eventually bought it and came to pick it up-he never drove it (declined to actually! Wtf?) didn't really inspect it much either...just loaded it on a trailer and took off. Well, about 3 days later he tried pulling some crap that it didn't have a full Hotchkiss suspension, had a "mechanic" inspect it and said the front steering was about to all off, quarters had rust (this was a 100% solid Georgia car BTW!) and on and on.

I thought what the fudge is he talking about? Then he said he take $1200 to make it all right or else he'd just bring my car back and get a refund....I smelled a scam in the works and told him the nearest cliff he can leap from.

In called my local BBB and they said no matter what the circumstance, Iowa doesn't have the resources to follow fraudulent online transactions because quote "that's all theyd have the time to do". I was just covering my butt-it appears there is little if any recourse available legally.
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I'm going to offer this one time and one time only, so please read carefully.

If you have an issue with Denny/LFN T U/Thirdgen Ranch I want u to PM me calmly and factually. No BS involved or pissing contests. Anything other than a calm message explaining what happened along with proof of it.

If u cannot do it calmly and do not have proof do not waste my time.

I am willing to try and help people out, but only if you provide me with proof and I want a name/address/phone number so it keeps people running at the mouth out of it. If needed we can exchange emails.

If u cannot do this and include what I asked, do not waste my time as I will simply delete it and move on. I work a lot and have my own family so this would be in my spare time only, so expect no miracles.

I've always done what I can do for this board, especially in my area where ThirdGen Fest is hosted. I have people who I consider friends on both sides of this equation(as well as Fest and Expo), so I am trying to help everyone.

Just remember, calm and factual period, no ifs ands or buts.
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Not a single PM with the facts calmly explained?

No one can say I did not offer.
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How can I get in touch with you? Not familiar with this PM thing.
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Too bad - I was planning on ordering a set of the deluxe luggage compartment carpet panels from them.

Anybody know who else carries them?
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That guy Denny is a crook. I ordered some wheels from him before Christmas and never got them. I would email him for tracking info but he would never give it to me. Luckily I used paypal and I opened a dispute. He never responded to paypal and they awarded me all my money back. I'll never buy from Thirdgen Ranch again!!
I posted this before. I appreciate you trying to help and or listen to people but paypal stepped in and took care of things for me already.
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Re: Thirdgen Ranch? CROOKS

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Not a single PM with the facts calmly explained?

No one can say I did not offer.
I think all the issues are pretty well laid out here. At this point, its been so long, I would imagine people have taken other avenues to get it resolved.

I will PM you.
Old 03-18-2015, 10:01 AM
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Re: Thirdgen Ranch? CROOKS

Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM
Not a single PM with the facts calmly explained?

No one can say I did not offer.
It's safe to say not everyone checks their E-mail or the forum daily, so give it a few days. I think most people gave up because the PayPal or Credit Card company time-frame to challenge or refund ran out.

EDIT: I know this thread here is only from last month, but here is the original Thread (with more members and more complaints) in case you didn't see it from 4-9-14.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/afte...ything-ok.html
Old 03-18-2015, 03:58 PM
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Re: Thirdgen Ranch? CROOKS

Originally Posted by padak
It's safe to say not everyone checks their E-mail or the forum daily, so give it a few days. I think most people gave up because the PayPal or Credit Card company time-frame to challenge or refund ran out.

EDIT: I know this thread here is only from last month, but here is the original Thread (with more members and more complaints) in case you didn't see it from 4-9-14.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/afte...ything-ok.html
Paypal has extended their policy to 180 days.
Old 03-18-2015, 04:00 PM
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Paypal has extended their policy to 180 days.
Did you check the link out that I posted some of those are from over two years ago
Old 03-19-2015, 04:18 PM
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Re: Thirdgen Ranch? CROOKS

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No. Straight up NOTHING!!

You order something and he is quick to process payment, sends you an e-mail stating it's "shipped" with no tracking. You reply asking for tracking and get no reply.

People have done the following, with no luck.

Calls & Voice mails - Unanswered and not returned.
E-mails, he replies quickly until you ask for tracking...
Facebook - you make a post on ANYTHING like the fest or products, it's QUICKLY replied too... you make any mention of wanting a return or where is your part, the post is deleted.

What else is there left to do but show up at his house.. that is how one poster got his parts.. I understand some are over-seas, maybe someone going to the fest can help out all these people...
I really wish I would have looked at this thread before ordering because everything in this quote is what im going through. i filed a disputed with my credit card and if my parts don't arrive by the day they told me i will receive a full credit and they will take care of it. lesson well learned!
Old 03-20-2015, 12:48 PM
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Re: Thirdgen Ranch? CROOKS

Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM
Not a single PM with the facts calmly explained?

No one can say I did not offer.

I will write you a PM just need some time. Thanks for trying to help!
Old 03-21-2015, 10:35 AM
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I will write you a PM just need some time. Thanks for trying to help!
International? ughhh................................. I can try, but no promises on nothing involving international anything to anywhere I deal with exactly 2 people out of the USA anymore selling wise. 5 orders go thru, 6 goes to customs hell for months................. Send me a PM and we can see.



TTK88 I will try and give u a holler later today when I get out to the garage.
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Re: Thirdgen Ranch? CROOKS

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Too bad - I was planning on ordering a set of the deluxe luggage compartment carpet panels from them.

Anybody know who else carries them?
His compartment panels were pretty bad. It looked like it was cut from some cheap bathroom carpeting you buy at Home depot. I returned them to him right after I got them. They are not molded. Nobody makes a replacement for it. When I purchased carpet for my car, I purchased a few extra yards of carpet and used a heat gun to mold the back of it a bit and then glued it on the panels with contact cement. It came out pretty good, and matched the rest of the carpet exactly.
Surprising all this trouble surfaced with Denny. A few years ago he was a stand up guy. I did some business with him when I did the resto on my car.
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Just like the others on here I ordered a few parts. He was super nice, great service until he got my payment. I have no tracking or shipping info as he stopped answering emails. Just filed a dispute with pay pal.
It's too bad really. Fingers crossed we can get it resolved quickly.
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Oh and just FYI, I just emailed him from my other email, asking about a console I was looking for. He replied in minutes.
Not cool. Not cool at all.
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Re: Thirdgen Ranch? CROOKS

This is his Ebay account, still selling parts.


http://www.ebay.com/usr/thirdgenranch_inc
Old 03-25-2015, 08:36 PM
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I recently purchased an interior carpet kit from Denny with no problems except I'm not exactly happy with the fabric but worst of all the color doesn't match my doeskin interior. He responded at first but since I requested a refund I've heard nothing. I saw the posts and thought you would like to know. I need more parts for my restoration but you know. Any help would be appreciated but I can see there are others w/ bigger problems. Too bad he lost another customer over $55.
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Can you file a dispute with paypal or your credit card?
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I've bought several items from him in the past at a good price and decent delivery time. I don't know what's happened. I heard that him and his wife had a shake up a while back. Perhaps she was the driving force of the business ?
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This is very surprising and I definitely want to hear the outcome
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Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM
I'm going to offer this one time and one time only, so please read carefully.

If you have an issue with Denny/LFN T U/Thirdgen Ranch I want u to PM me calmly and factually. No BS involved or pissing contests. Anything other than a calm message explaining what happened along with proof of it.

If u cannot do it calmly and do not have proof do not waste my time.

I am willing to try and help people out, but only if you provide me with proof and I want a name/address/phone number so it keeps people running at the mouth out of it. If needed we can exchange emails.

If u cannot do this and include what I asked, do not waste my time as I will simply delete it and move on. I work a lot and have my own family so this would be in my spare time only, so expect no miracles.

I've always done what I can do for this board, especially in my area where ThirdGen Fest is hosted. I have people who I consider friends on both sides of this equation(as well as Fest and Expo), so I am trying to help everyone.

Just remember, calm and factual period, no ifs ands or buts.
Please help me out man, my name is Jesse, Dupra I ordered a front bumper insert/grille about a week ago and have yet to receive even a tracking number like everyone else is saying is happening to them.. if you can help it would be greatly appreciated. Also I am from Syracuse, New York
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Nyyrings26@aim.com is my email thank you very much.
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