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Old 08-13-2014, 02:05 PM
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Either way it doesn't matter. What he sent me is not a Vigilante, and that's clearly what the auction was supposedly for.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Originally Posted by Joe Tag
I said page opened, not item bid on. Looking at the page for a few minutes before choosing to pull the trigger. Page would not refresh until the sale was completed. Just bad timing.
I know, I was agreeing with you lol. Also I was pointing out what a seller can't do after a item is bid on. Also, they can't edit it after it's been listed for so many days, or if it's within the last couple hours of the auctions end (following suit that no one had big on it by this point).
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

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Either way it doesn't matter. What he sent me is not a Vigilante, and that's clearly what the auction was supposedly for.
Exactly, all you have to do is show eBay the different pictures in the auction, the fact that what he sent you isn't what was listed, etc.
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Gotcha, misunderstood your post.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Also, you should have checked this guys feedback before purchase, besides you, he had three other negatives within recent months.. One for NOT shipping anything, one for shipping a broken part, and the other for really delayed shipping. He's going to lose his account.

I don't buy anything unless the seller has 100% feedback, and selling for a couple years, and well over 100 transactions, been buying since 2006, never been ripped off.
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Yes, it's pointless to buy things on eBay if you don't look at feedback. It doesn't have to be perfect, but it's usually pretty obvious when a seller is shady. eBay has recently made it easier to check feedback. Used to be you could only look through all feed back at once so you couldn't just look at the bad replies. Now you can go straight to neg feedback and see what the problems were.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

So whats The update on this...
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Originally Posted by articwhiteZ
So whats The update on this...
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Sorry, I didn't get an email from the forum telling me this thread was updated (even though I subscribed ... I'll re-subscribe).

The seller kept up his same bullshit, saying I have buyer's remorse because I wanted a torque converter with a 9.5" diameter, but he was talking about the 9.5" bolt spacing, blaa, blaa, blaa. As well all know, ALL 700r4 torque converters have a 9.5" bolt spacing or they wouldn't be able to bolt on to the stock flexplate. So he's trying to cloud the issue with bullshit so the Ebay arbitrators will get confused and not know whether to believe him or not.

So now it's gone to Ebay arbitration.

This is what he sent me along with a real Vigilante for the 700r4. I included these photos with the Ebay case, that's why the comments are on the photos.
Attached Thumbnails WARNING:  Ebay seller  ellie082687-torque-converter-i-received   WARNING:  Ebay seller  ellie082687-torque-converter-i-received   WARNING:  Ebay seller  ellie082687-real-vigilante-front.jpg  
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

...actually, it's probably my spam filter catching the thirdgen updates.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

I just got the Ebay decision - in my favor.

"Final decision:
This case was decided in your favor. To receive a refund for the item of $340.00, please ship the item back to the seller. As a courtesy, we have provided a prepaid shipping label to the return address. Please see our email in 'My Messages' for more details."

Ebay provided a prepaid UPS shipping label, but it's after 5:00PM on Saturday now, so I'll have to wait until Monday to get it in the mail. When UPS confirms delivery I'll get my refund... though I expect that ***** to make up a story that he either didn't get, it wasn't the item he shipped me, or it was beat up or something. I can't see a crook like him just accepting that he got caught and it's over.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Pack it up, leave the box unsealed until you get to UPS. Have the person taking it confirm the condition and what is in there. Take a pic, get a name. See if you can add signature confirmation to the shipping. Let him say he got a box of rocks again and get banned for sure.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Cool that D-Bag gets what he deserves, Copy that tracking number so you can keep tabs on it and see exactly when he gets his JUNK back.

Take many pics of the box condition before you take it for ship'n......
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

If you are that worried about it, have a friend film you as you seal the package at the post office and hand it off to the clerk. Can't get it back to do any funny business after you hand it off
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

told ya you would get your money back.

pack it up the same..
as all the shipping info will have the wt on it. just like the one he sent you.
cover it for the $350.. if theres a prob UPS can cover the cost after that.
but you will get your money back from Paypal first..

ask paypal about the shipping cost back to him? whos payn that in the end?

and send him a note sayn.. thank you

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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Originally Posted by Casey Butt
This is one of her/his responses to my request to return the item and get my money back...

Seller's message:

"im not lying or twisting my way out of nothing this is a 9.5" convertor not a 12" like you say as you can see that clearly in the pics. I don't accept returns, you will be wasting your money sending it back to me, you left abusive feedback before even working out the case I think its clear whos trying to scam who here. why ask me after you bought item about pictures and details after the fact you bought it if the info and pictures were in ad before you purchased it. if you had felt it wasn't original then all you had to do is move on not purchase convertor. "

"why did you not ask the needed questions and ask for needed pictures before you purchased item, thus leading me to buyers remorse as you found it somewere else for less then comeback questioning the details of the auctions which were all present and listed before you hit BUY IT NOW. I did not force you to make purchase without asking for more info simply put and now you want me to refund you for a mistake you mad not knowing the type of convetor you purchased is just absurd. then implying and that I falsified it by painting it PURPLE a color that's pateneted by Vigiliante that cant even be duplicated anywere cause its pateneted that's just crazy."

"I don't accept returns cause I was burned already due to a member sending me back a box full of rocks instead of the actual item shipped thus I don't accept returns. im not hiding any info as all those emails between us are recorded and cant be deleted to show you asked me questions about convertor after you bought it. So why didn't you ask me those same questions like the other ones you asked before hitting buy it now???? I basically told you there would be a delay due to a death in the family and with tht being said I even shipped out convertor sooner then was expected on ebay. youre trying to rip me off for the convertor and the total cost of it, all details were listed in auction ad, why ask me if convertor was what it is after the fact? that's what I don't understand. Its the same convertor shown in all 3 pictures. I even lowered price to help you out some as you seemed interested and were quick to jump and buy."
First clue you're dealing with a scammer - they have the grammar skills of a 4th grade dropout (or someone graduating with less than a 'C' average).
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I dropped it off at UPS this morning. He should have it in a few days. It will be interesting to see whether he pulls the "he shipped me a box of rocks" or "he painted a junk converter purple and kept my 'real' Vigilante" bullshit.
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It doesn't really matter. eBay us phasing in even more heavily buyer favored protection. It is nearly impossible to win a dispute as a seller now.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Originally Posted by Casey Butt
It will be interesting to see whether he pulls the "he shipped me a box of rocks" or "he painted a junk converter purple and kept my 'real' Vigilante" bullshit.

For some reason I can see this low life pull'n something like that !
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For some reason I can see this low life pull'n something like that !
I fully expect it. He's a con artist, a predator selling scrap as high-end aftermarket parts on Ebay and then fighting to keep his stolen money even after he's been busted. Knowing what he is, and his scam, I can't see him giving up. I'll update the thread when I see what happens.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

whos going to pay shipping to get it back to him???
will paypal/ebay pay you back for that??
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Originally Posted by articwhiteZ
whos going to pay shipping to get it back to him???
will paypal/ebay pay you back for that??
Ebay gave me a prepaid UPS shipping label. All I had to do was drop it off at the UPS Store. When it arrives they'll know by the tracking number... I didn't really have to do anything other than pack it up and drop it off. Conveniently, I had a box just the perfect size to fit that crook's original box in. I put the junk converter back in the same box he shipped it to me in and put all of it in a new box.
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Ebay provided a shipping label. (Post #61)
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Put the tracking info for the shipment in the case for eBay. They can see when it arrives.
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Originally Posted by Termn8r
Put the tracking info for the shipment in the case for eBay. They can see when it arrives.
...Got done automatically as Ebay bought the shipping label. It should be delivered on Thursday.

I can't wait to see what angle he'll try when it gets there. He's too big of a ***** not to try something again.

In the meantime, I just ordered a Vigilante from Pro-Built... not quite the $340 deal that was too good to be true anyway, but at least I'll get a real Vigilante this time.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

this is good to know, I almost bought from this person, have to say I wont now! Hope you get it all worked out!
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Just got this email from the scammer...

"I hope you sent returned item to the correct address as I never listed a return merchandise address I wonder where you sent it t, since I never listed an authorized return address. I cant receive something that doesn't come to the correct address. Besides the fact if you sent it to the wrong address you will not be credited by ebay till it shows it went to the correct address not the ship from address that was on the box. just hoping you knew this or you wont be getting refund if they cant confirm it was delivered to my address.

- ellie082687"

So looks like this will be his next scam coming. I knew he'd try something.
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You will get a confirmation that it was delivered to his confirmed Paypal or Ebay address and that should be good enough. Just ignore the emails and deal with Ebay only.
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This con artist has deliberately attempted to hide who he actually he is in every way possible. The Ebay account is "ellie082687", yet the piece of junk was shipped to me from,

O. Hidalgauz
4205 NW 66 Ave
Miami, FL 33166

Apparently, that's not the correct return address and he's trying to confuse and tie the case up more, hoping I shipped to that address and he can claim he never got it. But the return address was automatically on the shipping label Ebay provided me, so it was shipped to whatever return address he registered with Ebay. If he gave them the wrong address then that's his problem, not mine or Ebay's.

But I do hope he gets it - just so he'll have the hassle of disposing of that piece of junk.
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You're solid, eBay/PayPal (same company now) printed that label and told you to use it. Once the tracking says it was delivered to that location, your good and will get refund. That's the address he provided eBay/PayPal as a seller for his returns ( you have to have a confirmed return address, confirmed credit card or bank account, and confirmed phone # to sell, I know this all because I am a seller and people have opened claims against me. They always lost because they were scammer's and it all works out in the end.. but once someone opens a claim against a seller, legit claim or not, they freeze your account, only downfall I hate about them.
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O. Hidalgauz
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Miami, FL 33166


Is this the address that was on the box, and which address was on the label they made you, I am curios if it was the same as where it sent from, one he provided, or what..
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O. Hidalgauz
4205 NW 66 Ave
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I just looked that address up on Google maps, doesn't seem to be real Comes up in the middle of an intersection, no house.

https://www.google.com/maps/@25.8115...uKqzr2TTiA!2e0
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

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O. Hidalgauz
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Is this the address that was on the box, and which address was on the label they made you, I am curios if it was the same as where it sent from, one he provided, or what..
It wasn't the same name, but I'm not sure about the address. I don't have the shipping label info with me at the moment (and UPS doesn't seem to give it on their website).

Here's the label that was on the box...
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I love how he says I hope you sent it to the correct address.. but I never provided it so I wonder where it's going hahaha what a tool. Someone please go punch this dude.
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He's just a dumb petty criminal. I shouldn't have been so stupid, but I figured I'd take the chance and the auction didn't seem bogus until I saw those photos he added after I refreshed the page and had already bought it. Plus I figured Ebay's Buyer Protection should work if it turns out to be a scam.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Stock GM converters have a code stamped onto the pad on them to ID them. If it's got the GM code - It's obviously NOT be the Vigilante he claimed it to be. (even if it is Purple !)

http://www.trutechtrans.com/Topic-1-00-07.html.


http://www.bulkpart.com/2/category/4L60-700R4tc.html


Get a picture of the code from the converter he shipped to you and submit it to PayPal. If you are not allowed to update the claim with any new pics -- call Paypal and ask the rep to allow the update; they will.

Good Luck !


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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Originally Posted by Casey Butt
Just got this email from the scammer...

"I hope you sent returned item to the correct address as I never listed a return merchandise address I wonder where you sent it t, since I never listed an authorized return address. I cant receive something that doesn't come to the correct address. Besides the fact if you sent it to the wrong address you will not be credited by ebay till it shows it went to the correct address not the ship from address that was on the box. just hoping you knew this or you wont be getting refund if they cant confirm it was delivered to my address.

- ellie082687"

So looks like this will be his next scam coming. I knew he'd try something.
all this BS would make me go on down to FLA with a aluminum T ball bat.and get some batting practise on his head.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

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all this BS would make me go on down to FLA with a aluminum T ball bat.and get some batting practise on his head.
maybe the other reason he didn't list his correct address...
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you'll get your money back no matter where the converter ends up...it was his job to post a address...any posted even a old one thats no good..is all ebay/paypal wants....its all up to seller t.o keep it updated...lol
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

I sent him this message in response to the last one I posted...

"Dear ellie082687,

I was expecting and waiting for your next scam. So this is it.

The item was sent to the shipping address on the label Ebay provided. If you provided Ebay with the wrong return shipping address that's your problem, not mine, not Ebay's.

Don't contact me privately again. I have no interest in any further dealings with you."



So this was his string of responses he just sent me ...

"Dear casey_butt,

at least you know how to suck a fat d!ck seems to be its your best quality running that d!cksucker of yours lol. then you wonder why you have your last name lol.

- ellie082687"


"Dear casey_butt,

just another lil bitch is what you are f*ck you and your family. if i dont recieve it at my residence nothing will be refunded. to bad thats not the address retard. lets see what happens when it doesnt get delivered cause its not my address. i never gave ebay a return shipping address cause i dont accept returns *** wad or else that info would have been provided in the auction listing oh well looks like it will take you a while to getthose funds back dick F*CK.

- ellie082687"


"Dear casey_butt,

what retard buys something without knowing what it is. lol

- ellie082687"


"Dear casey_butt,

then gives an excuse of what a f*ck *** he is after buying something he knew what it was so you let yourself get f*cked over and involved in over 2 months of waiting to get your money back what a dick f*ck lol

- ellie082687"


"Dear casey_butt,

then you wonder why you dont get anywhere in life. i mean who buys a used convertor off ebay for $340 you would need to still have had it opened and flushed out before putting in another tranny lol you would hAVE wasted the same amount if you would have just bought it new.


once AGAIN ANOTHER EBAY DUCK

- ellie082687"



"Dear casey_butt,

IM DONE WITH YOU I WILL BE BUYING THREW SOMEONE ELSE REGARDLESS SINCE EBAY IS SO BIG AND SO MANY PEOPLE USE IT, ITS PRETTY MUCH UNSTOPPABLE. SO GOODBYE I WILL NEVER SEE YOUR REPLY AS I WILL GET LAST WORD AND YOU WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT *** MUNCH.

LOL. GOODBYE AND SUCK A FAT D!CK

- ellie082687"


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Pfff. He's the one getting no where in life. And what does your family have to do with the transaction? I hope he gets whats coming to him.

Oh and make sure you report those comments to ebay. He should be removed for typing like that. His insults were not even good; half of what he said made no sense. Must be scammer humor?

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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Originally Posted by NOSHOWALLGO
His insults were not even good; half of what he said made no sense. Must be scammer humor?
I don't know, but I drove a truck for 20 years and no one calls me truck-driver. I sucked one d!ck and now...
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WOW...... Just wow, There has to be something in the water down there !!!
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Just fyi, that person just admitted to cheating you. That should have just sealed their fate. I would not respond to them again and post to the case of abuse in private messages and that they admitted to cheating you and stop there. Remain professional and you are solid.
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Re: WARNING: Ebay seller ellie082687

Originally Posted by Casey Butt
I sent him this message in response to the last one I posted...

"Dear ellie082687,

I was expecting and waiting for your next scam. So this is it.

The item was sent to the shipping address on the label Ebay provided. If you provided Ebay with the wrong return shipping address that's your problem, not mine, not Ebay's.

Don't contact me privately again. I have no interest in any further dealings with you."



So this was his string of responses he just sent me ...

"Dear casey_butt,

at least you know how to suck a fat d!ck seems to be its your best quality running that d!cksucker of yours lol. then you wonder why you have your last name lol.

- ellie082687"


"Dear casey_butt,

just another lil bitch is what you are f*ck you and your family. if i dont recieve it at my residence nothing will be refunded. to bad thats not the address retard. lets see what happens when it doesnt get delivered cause its not my address. i never gave ebay a return shipping address cause i dont accept returns *** wad or else that info would have been provided in the auction listing oh well looks like it will take you a while to getthose funds back dick F*CK.

- ellie082687"


"Dear casey_butt,

what retard buys something without knowing what it is. lol

- ellie082687"


"Dear casey_butt,

then gives an excuse of what a f*ck *** he is after buying something he knew what it was so you let yourself get f*cked over and involved in over 2 months of waiting to get your money back what a dick f*ck lol

- ellie082687"


"Dear casey_butt,

then you wonder why you dont get anywhere in life. i mean who buys a used convertor off ebay for $340 you would need to still have had it opened and flushed out before putting in another tranny lol you would hAVE wasted the same amount if you would have just bought it new.


once AGAIN ANOTHER EBAY DUCK

- ellie082687"



"Dear casey_butt,

IM DONE WITH YOU I WILL BE BUYING THREW SOMEONE ELSE REGARDLESS SINCE EBAY IS SO BIG AND SO MANY PEOPLE USE IT, ITS PRETTY MUCH UNSTOPPABLE. SO GOODBYE I WILL NEVER SEE YOUR REPLY AS I WILL GET LAST WORD AND YOU WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT *** MUNCH.

LOL. GOODBYE AND SUCK A FAT D!CK

- ellie082687"


a floater in tampa bay. complete with accessory cinder blocks.
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I added this genius's messages to the Ebay open case.
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LOL Give an idiot enough rope and he will hang himself. If it makes you feel any better he has no items listed now. Probably a kid using his parents account. I don't see someone like him having a standing account for 6 years. Wait till mom tries to buy that figurine she found and discovers she was banned.
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LOL Give an idiot enough rope and he will hang himself. If it makes you feel any better he has no items listed now. Probably a kid using his parents account. I don't see someone like him having a standing account for 6 years. Wait till mom tries to buy that figurine she found and discovers she was banned.
Something like that. That would explain the differing addresses, the female name on the account but the male hands in the photos, etc.

I wonder who's on the hook for the $340.

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a floater in tampa bay. complete with accessory cinder blocks.
isint against the law to send someone threatening messages? just to twist the knife, so to speak. I would also see if the cops might be interested in those messages he sent you.
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Tampa is a long way to drive from Miami to get rid of a body. Alligator alley is 20 miles west, and as the name suggests, few bodies are found. There's nothing in there that cops wouldn't laugh off. Would be a waste of time.


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