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Old 08-20-2023, 04:14 PM
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CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

ebay has a money back guarantee(you can return them if not legit), so if your not confidant in your ability to inspect these parts. Don't buy them!

Not long ago found some good Deals on some LS parts that I think are legit, so figured I'd share. Still buyer beware as anything not straight from GM you can't be 100% sure.


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is it worth destroying your motor though?
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

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is it worth destroying your motor though?
I'm confident the parts I got won't but everyone must inspect their own parts. Even big name performance brand parts have failures that will destroy an engine.

There are many many many merchants selling supposed GM parts on ebay and as I said in the video the Jegs/AT crate engine I got from Jegs off ebay I can't be 100% about. The parts I got from those merchants, I feel are genuine and as I said at the very top of my original post, "ebay has a money back guarantee(you can return them if not legit), so if your not confidant in your ability to inspect these parts. Don't buy them!".
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

Unless you are building a high revving motor that needs additional valvetrain stability, GM parts are the way to go. LS6 springs, and LS7 lifters are not expensive, same goes for timing chain and sprocket. They may or may not be fine but I wouldn't trust ebay valvetrain components when you can buy an entire kit utilizing the best of GM's mills for a few hundred bucks.

LS6 springs - $100
LS7 lifters - $100
C5R chain - $90
Any LS sprocket (single bolt or 3) - $40
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

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Unless you are building a high revving motor that needs additional valvetrain stability, GM parts are the way to go. LS6 springs, and LS7 lifters are not expensive, same goes for timing chain and sprocket. They may or may not be fine but I wouldn't trust ebay valvetrain components when you can buy an entire kit utilizing the best of GM's mills for a few hundred bucks.

LS6 springs - $100
LS7 lifters - $100
C5R chain - $90
Any LS sprocket (single bolt or 3) - $40
I wouldn't trust most ebay merchants, "ebay has a money back guarantee(you can return them if not legit), so if your not confidant in your ability to inspect these parts. Don't buy them!".

The place I got the springs from is a Corvette place, I only bought them thru their ebay store because of that "money back guarantee" and I messaged them before to see if they'd cut me a deal on 3 sets, they did! The lifter place is another shop here in Michigan. Not random ebay merchants with the lowest prices. Still always gotta inspect stuff cause even a good parts place can have someone pad profits with counterfeit parts mixed in. I'm happy with my purchases for these budget projects and I use better parts for better builds.
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

I'd still rather use the GM stuff where they made millions of these. You may get your money back, but you won't get your destroyed motor back when one of them let go.
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

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I'd still rather use the GM stuff where they made millions of these. You may get your money back, but you won't get your destroyed motor back when one of them let go.
I'm confident that the stuff I purchased those times from these merchants, is actual GM stuff BUT those who wouldn't be sure of what they inspect, stick to direct from GM. Far as the "money back guarantee", pretty surethat doesn't go as far as once you use the part n it fails. It's for, IF the merchant misrepresented what they were selling as GM but it's not! "(you can return them if not legit), so if your not confidant in your ability to inspect these parts. Don't buy them!"

It's a not a warranty, it's a no charge return IF your stuff is damaged, incorrect(wrong item, I got the wrong cam kit just last spring), misrepresented by the seller/ad(FAKE but sold as REAL). It's up to the buyer to follow thru and inspect/check. If you do not want to do that then STICK TO DIRECT FROM GM!

FYI I make NOTHING from the sales of these parts and none of it was sponsored or free. Only ad revenue from the video, IF someone doesn't skip the ads and most my videos are only skip-able ads(youtube will sometimes put non-skip-able ad at the start, that they make 100% off). I do not know these part places and CAN NOT be 100% certain about the authenticity of their products(nor could anyone be of any parts place that bulk buys n sells GM LS7 lifters). The results are based on my OPINION, I have tried to be very clear about this in the video. My video description contains no direct "ebay" links, I provide enough info to find them on your own if someone is interested.

This is a review section of the forum and I have provided a review of parts that I myself purchased.
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

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pretty surethat doesn't go as far
Weird the "sure that" is surethat even if I try to fix it.
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

If your not confidant in your ability to inspect parts. Don't buy from them!Also this applies to EVERYTHING on ebay or amazon in my opinion.
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

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If your not confidant in your ability to inspect parts. Don't buy from them!Also this applies to EVERYTHING on ebay or amazon in my opinion.
Now the ending of that second bold sentence is connecting to the first word of the 3rd, even if I try n fix it. Weird! Is it just me?
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

Are you just having a conversation with yourself now that nobody cares about your clickbait ebay junk?
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

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Are you just having a conversation with yourself now that nobody cares about your clickbait ebay junk?
I was noticing an issue with the board messages and asked if others noticed but thx for volunteering for my ignore list

This is a review section and I have shared my opinion of some parts that I purchased.
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

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If your not confidant in your ability to inspect parts. Don't buy from them!Also this applies to EVERYTHING on ebay or amazon in my opinion.
I certainly mean no disrespect, nor am I trying to throw shade here but this statement is completely short sighted. You can look at parts until you are blue in the face but until you have a full metrology report including hardness and heat treat processes, your eyes will fail you. Not to mention how they characterized their processes in relation to component performance and machine tolerances. You can be assured the big names (GM, Lunati, Crane, Comp, Yella Terra Johnson, Morell, etc) have done this as it is baked into their cost appropriately and they have no problem walking you through it. Cheap parts that live in a dynamic environment are beyond risky, because they are not developed appropriately. You may get lucky with the Speed Engineering's of the world, but their parts are static in nature. Again, not trying to be a Richard here, but cheap parts and power do not exist harmoniously. It always leads to pain.

If you think cheap valvetrain components will be any different than your water pump experience, then I have a ketchup popsicle to sell you.

Originally Posted by BOOT77
FYI cheap alum water pumps don't like RPM, ask me how I know.
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

Originally Posted by ShiftyCapone
I certainly mean no disrespect, nor am I trying to throw shade here but this statement is completely short sighted. You can look at parts until you are blue in the face but until you have a full metrology report including hardness and heat treat processes, your eyes will fail you. Not to mention how they characterized their processes in relation to component performance and machine tolerances. You can be assured the big names (GM, Lunati, Crane, Comp, Yella Terra Johnson, Morell, etc) have done this as it is baked into their cost appropriately and they have no problem walking you through it. Cheap parts that live in a dynamic environment are beyond risky, because they are not developed appropriately. You may get lucky with the Speed Engineering's of the world, but their parts are static in nature. Again, not trying to be a Richard here, but cheap parts and power do not exist harmoniously. It always leads to pain.

If you think cheap valvetrain components will be any different than your water pump experience, then I have a ketchup popsicle to sell you.



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You should re-read my prior post. I said something like, I am confident the parts i purchased and inspected are legit but can not be certain any other will get these same parts, so use caution and inspect them yourself!

Most performance parts places do not make much of their own parts lines, they repackage/brand others(some oem stuff). Morel is the only one I think that makes their own lifters, all others buy from someone else like Hylift Johnson(they even made some for GM). Small performance part CO's do not have anywhere near the RnD/budget/testing or resources that OEM's have.

I have done my homework on the part places I bought my lifters & springs from, I suggest anyone do their own! There is a plethora of merchant selling "LS" parts and if this helps them narrow down legit ones then good. I'm sure many aren't aware of the vast fakes.
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

Anyone(performance part places) who sells LS7 lifters or LS6 springs is open to possibly selling FAKES other than directly GM, even some dealerships.

It could be some rouge employee swapping parts or shady manager trying to hit a bonus & pad profits. They could even think that they have legit parts but have FAKES
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

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Anyone(performance part places) who sells LS7 lifters or LS6 springs is open to possibly selling FAKES other than directly GM, even some dealerships.

It could be some rouge employee swapping parts or shady manager trying to hit a bonus & pad profits. They could even think that they have legit parts but have FAKES
I know what you are saying, and yes not every company is fully vertically integrated to avoid having a supply chain, but these issues don't happen with a proper component qualification process. That comes with a cost to eliminate those risks. The big players do this. They have to do this to survive. They have more to lose as a company than Joe corvettes hot rod shop, who could never afford to be a supplier to these big players. Again, not trying to be a Donkey here, but there is more to this than the average person sees. Cheap parts don't always mean poor performance, but in most cases it does. Economy of scales (large OEM producers) help bring this cost down without diluting the performance. However, I see your point, it just needs an asterisk of caution.
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Re: CHEAP LS Lifters & Springs

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I know what you are saying, and yes not every company is fully vertically integrated to avoid having a supply chain, but these issues don't happen with a proper component qualification process. That comes with a cost to eliminate those risks. The big players do this. They have to do this to survive. They have more to lose as a company than Joe corvettes hot rod shop, who could never afford to be a supplier to these big players. Again, not trying to be a Donkey here, but there is more to this than the average person sees. Cheap parts don't always mean poor performance, but in most cases it does. Economy of scales (large OEM producers) help bring this cost down without diluting the performance. However, I see your point, it just needs an asterisk of caution.
I have tried to be VERY VERY VERY clear at the caution part. If this was about a junkyard LS with a china turbo in a Japan car, I doubt that I'd get the flak.
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If this was about a junkyard LS with a china turbo in a Japan car, I doubt that I'd get the flak.
To be fair, I'd hate that too. I think I misread your point. It didn't jump out at me at first. #im a grouch
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