Blackdog36

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I'm looking to upgrade my stock headlights. There are many options from HID to LED and projectors. They seen to vary greatly in quality and price. The conversion kit from screamingchicken.com seems to be of good quality with minimal modifications to existing wiring harness. Has anybody used their products?

https://screamingchicken.com/1982-92...onversion-kit/

scooter

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Garbage. You can't use an LED in a halogen housing.

Blackdog36

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Thank you the response. Leaning towards using my stock headlights for now as I am wrapping up my restoration. This way I will have more time to figure out what I want to do. Any recommendations for LED?

scooter

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JW Speaker makes LED replacements, but they aren't cheap. BLS makes HID replacements, I think

jharrison5

So I've seen a lot of semis cruising around with 4x6 LED headlights and they seem to work pretty good, but I'm not too sold on the looks of them.

ThePain

There's a couple sets out there that look pretty good (IMO) but they're $$$. The cheap ones all look pretty bad, I agree.

drknow90rs_ss@y

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Led headlights have come a long way in the past few years. ( I sell them, BTW, so let me know if you need any help/advice.) All my daily drivers use LED lighting. I do not recommend projector-style headlights. They rarely work properly.
DR.K.

scooter

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I would LOVE to see facts/data to back that up. Projectors are the Correct way you can use HID and LED lighting for D.O.T..

blacksunshine'91

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Sucks that most headlight conversion kits for our cars will not fit the '91-92 Firebirds because of the smaller housings. If there is a quality kit out there, please let me know.

ULTM8Z

Agreed. About 10 years ago, I ditched my sealed beam incandescents and converted to projector HID using a set of 2008 Acura TL projectors. That was back in the day when there weren't really any aftermarket projector conversion kits and the vast majority of people were sticking HID bulbs into their H4 housings, just blinding people coming the opposite direction.

While my Camaro is a 2nd gen, this may give you guys some ideas on how to do something similar on your 3rd gens.

http://ultm8z.com/HID%20Projector%20...n%20Camaro.pdf

I've since swapped out the xenon bulbs for LED's. My wife has had a Infinity QX60 and now a Lexus RX350 and the setup on my Camaro easily blows both of those cars away in terms of illumination, especially with the high-beams. But with the proper cutoff line and light pattern I don't blind people coming the other direction.

But in terms of aftermarket stuff available these days, it's still really difficult to beat the OEMs.

drknow90rs_ss@y

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I only sell DOT approved housings. I can get DOT approved projector housings as well. I use projectors on some vehicles, like my 2004 Chevy CC dually. I have 4x6 projector housings as well. I used them, for a time, on my '86 IROC-Z, but feel like the diamond clear housings I carry, focus the light better. I have tried multiple housings and multiple LED units, and those are my findings. Facts? No, more like a learned opinion based on multiple experiences, on both my and my customers vehicles. If projectors work for you, then I recommend you go with projectors.
DR.K.

scooter

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I followed your car over at NastyZ, I decided to do HIDs after I saw what you did on your car

scooter

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It's not that projectors are "for me", its the only LEGAL way to put an HID or LED into a car unless it is a replacement LED replacement housing designed without the use of a projector. I have seen the TrickLite LED round 7" headlights for older cars and the light output SUCKS.
Projectors focus the light output and give a cutoff line so you're not shining excess light into the faces of the oncoming traffic. If you're putting LEDs into halogen housings because you think it works better, you're doing it wrong and failing to consider the other drivers on the road. I imagine you think that light output is better this way since you get more light above the driver, so you THINK it's superior. You might as well just put a bunch of LED bars on your vehicle, because it's the same result

As I said projectors are the CORRECT way to do it.

ULTM8Z

Hah... that's cool. Thanks.

Yeah at the time I was doing a ton of research and everyone was saying that the 2006-2008 Acura TL's were one of the best projectors out there. And even now 10 years after my swap, and just with D2S LED bulbs (which I did last year), they're tough to beat.

drknow90rs_ss@y

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I only sell legal headlight conversions in the state of Arizona. I do understand what you are saying.
DR.K.

DontBlnkBadWolf

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There is no law in Indiana that requires all HID or LED to be in projector housings. Florida either.

mikeceli

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Do you offer DOT approved , LED, or other QUALITY headlamps for my 2000 Ford Excursion?

scooter

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It's a federal DOT regulation, for good reason.

drknow90rs_ss@y

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I do, and I have them in stock. They have a DOT registry number. If you want, PM me. I do not sell any products on here, as I am not a supporter.
DR.K.

KITT1983

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any pictures?

DontBlnkBadWolf

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I have yet to be pulled over, nor my wife and the countless others that don't use projectors. If it's a law, then it's overlooked. I'm not switching to projectors

ThePain

What do you want the cop to pull you over and do a vehicle inspection?

Just because you can do something doesn't make it right, but it might make you a douche.

DontBlnkBadWolf

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Really, name calling? Actually I'm a dick and I don't give a flying **** what you think. Back up the "Federal Law", I want to see it. Pull 10 website links to back it up. Obviously, if the cops don't care about the "Federal Law" why should you? I'd love to be behind you with my bright *** LEDs on high in all your mirrors, since you want to resort to name calling.

ThePain

Actually I'm a Libertarian, so I don't particularly care about Federal Law either. I'll still call you a douche if you act like one though, regardless of whether you're breaking a law or not.

DontBlnkBadWolf

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That explains the name calling, thanks for pointing it out. Plus, you forgot to put a comma behind the word: "Actually"

Just like I did in my first reply to you. But, I'm smart enough to figure out how grammar works. You still have ways to go before you can figure that out yourself, Libertarian.

ThePain

Dude, don't be mad. I think deep down maybe you suspect your lights suck, or you wouldn't be so sensitive about this topic. Why don't you just go and get some better lights?

Everyone you share the road with will appreciate it.

DontBlnkBadWolf

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Silly Libertarian, you think I'm mad? Not even close. I'm just replying to antagonize you. Libertarians are easy to antagonize. But hey, go get some weed and chill, my poor little Libertarian, everything will be okay in the morning.

ThePain

Yeah... you're upset, okay well good luck with that.

jharrison5

What was this thread about again?

ULTM8Z

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/bu...evrolet_Camaro

Check these guys out. I used their stuff when I converted my 2nd gen over to HID projectors (and then later swapped out to D2S bulbs).

Tibo

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LED projectors, or at least projector style, headlights in a 4x6 are becoming more common and some styles are much better than others. The style I got works well IMO. Very powerful with the ability to throw light far. Now my wife and I both have newer cars with factory led and hid projectors and the Camaro lights aren't quite as good for cutoff or giving a wide horizon of light but they are much better that the oem lights or the clear halogen lights.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/memb...ml#post6214755

blacksunshine'91

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Except for the '91-92 Firebirds. All the 4x6 lights that I find require cutting of the headlight bucket for us.

anesthes

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I'm running LED's on my Formula, and on my Corvette as well. They work quite well.

In regards to legality, after installing them and ensuring the aim was compliant, I said "Sergeant, would you give yourself a ticket?" and I responded "Nope, these look good".

-- Joe

kestell123

Is kind of poor manners is what I expect on the Corvette forum. I hope it doesn't bleed over to here.

anesthes

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What?

blacksunshine'91

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Morimoto now makes lo-beam/hi-beam LED headlights that fit the '91-92 (H4666) housings. They work awesome.

KITT1983

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anesthes

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Those look like good quality. A little more expensive and a little nicer than what I'm using.

-- Joe

DontBlnkBadWolf

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I've got the Screaming Chicken conversion in the cart waiting for payday. I'll buy my own LEDs to save money.