AussieIROC66

Is this product fair dinkum?



Developed to increase off-idle torque to mid-range performance and efficiency levels, PowerAidŽ's unique, patented Helix Bore design spins incoming air charge as it passes through the throttle body spacer. As air passes through the throttle body, AIRAID's unique, patented Helix Bore design spins the air molecules to organize and maintain high velocity. The organization and high velocity is beneficial as it provides a superior atomized mixture of fuel and air into the combustion chamber. Resulting in more part-throttle torque, improved mid-range power and overall combustion efficiency for better fuel economy.
Key Features & Benefits:

• Improves low-end torque and throttle response
• Manufactured from anodized aircraft quality billet aluminum
• Easy bolt-on installation
• Maximizes fuel efficiency
• Torque gains between 800 to 2500 RPM

1ADan

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most will agree they are not as beneficial as the marketing would like you to believe. probably better things to spend your money on...

Tuned Performance

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If general motors with there research and development saw improvement with the additional volume the would have changed there plenum design. Don't waste you hard earned.

ninetyone

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That is not true. Then why didn't GM include headers on our cars from the factory like Mustangs come with? There are a lot of things i can think of that GM didn't include on our cars. Maybe its because they would of increased our performance and then they would have to ask more for the selling price of the car when it was new?

Tuned Performance

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Good luck with your snake oil purchases ninetyone.

ninetyone

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What snake oil purchases? Never. I didn't say for him to go and buy it , i was commenting on what you said.

ninetyone

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There are a lot of things that auto manufacturers dont include on cars that they otherwise could have if they wanted to. Doesn't mean its not a worthwhile mod just cause GM didn't include it. Why would they? They were designing a car a specific way to meet certain criteria, they weren't trying to design a Supercar.

91phoenix

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I have heard several thoughts on these and generally believe that they help very minimally. Normally not worth the cost. However when I swap in a TPI in my car I will check with and without as the TPI setup I bought from the classifieds here already had one on it.
I did read about one independent test a couple years ago that stated the advertisement was exagerated and gave only very small measurable inprovements.

ninetyone

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Yes, let us know what you feel with it and with out. I have often wondered too. I am sure it does something. Might feel more low end torque in traffic.

89RS_82Z

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I think they are more effective on carbs and TBI style intakes

but either way its not a huge gain

ninetyone

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Your right, but it would still be interesting to see the before and after results on a tpi system.

FireDemonSiC

800 - 2500

Too bad that's within the slip range of my torque converter

86Zguy

I have one on mine not a direct bolt on no matter what they say I had to cut a section out of my tensioner to fit it not a noticable change maybe better throttle response and rolling torque and a slight whistle I would save the money and buy headers thts where the car gets choked up

ninetyone

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did it give you more torque while in traffic , like below 2500 rpms?

AussieIROC66

Cheers for the input guys.

ninetyone I agree with you too, Gm can't spend countless hours/ money on development, it has to end somewhere.

That's why there's an aftermarket out there.

It does sound Snakeoilish, I guess it's a matter of costs in the end & could it be spent better elsewhere. A bit like the airfoil I spose, I'd add one thou hahaha.

TTOP350

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With a airfoil and that spacer your going to pick up 57lbft of rwtq from 50rpm all the way to 7,500rpm.!!!!!! Make your tire salesman happy and install one today!!

IF, IF, IF it does help and you can feel 1hp and 1lbft of tq your a better driver than 99.99% of real drivers.

Not worth it at all unless you have a large CI motor that needs more plenum volume and then you will most likely have a better intake.

Spend your money on real parts that work or keep spending your money in the accessory isle at the local AZ, its your choice.

AussieIROC66

Yeah I um got that!

AussieIROC66

89RS_82Z

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You must be selling me some crap tires, all I know is they are slick within a month ........... Do I burn out? ..... who me? Never

91phoenix

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I could not agree more. that is what I was trying to say. Thank You so much TTOP350. I would not have the one I have except that it came with the 91 TPI setup that I bought. I never would have bought one because I have never believed the rediculous claims made of some of these things.

IROCmenace

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Would you not need a longer throttle cable? Mine has no slack to reach further.


**Nevermind, I see now that it comes with a linkage extender plate.**

86Zguy

barely noticable maybe 5-10 tq

3rdgenmaro

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There is also a psychological "gain". In other words, people will think what they are doing is going to add power and then when they drive their mind will tell them that there is a difference, even if there really isnt one that is noticeable. IMO that is.

SomeGuy25thZ

Someone put one on and dyno before and after and see what happens. You def. wont feel anything on the low end.

I put one of these on along with a K&N FIPK on my tahoe and there was a huge difference, for that big of a truck, in acceleration on the highway when i was already going over 45 mph. Maybe the spacer didnt do much or maybe it halped a little but there was certainly a difference but also not saying to go out and get it. I dont think its worth the money for our cars. I agree there are better things to spend money on that will give better results. this is one of those yea im bored and i wanted to add something type deals...

bigreed91

I bought a jegs tbi spacer, mostly so i could lift the tbi to remove the gold air cleaner spacer and still use my drop base and also at the same time i added an afpr so if it did help with fuel mileage idk

InfernalVortex

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The spacers are cool if you want to get a drop base on there I think. The PO of my car did that, looked cool. Im certain there was absolutely no performance gain.

I still have the TBI spacer if anyone wants it.

white1991rs

I think this is similar to the Tornado, it claims it speeds up the airflow by spinning it and that adds power but I've never heard anything good about either of them I don't think you would notice a difference

NagleMac

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I'm not completely sure about this, but isn't this the same idea of an air gap intake? Keeping the incoming mixture cooler and the swirl effects the same as swirl port heads? Which increased low end torque

3rdgenmaro

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No

NagleMac

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Ok then

1ADan

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this adapter is before the intake and heads, so any *slight* difference you may make in the 1/2" after the TB is completely negated the second it enters the actual intake and then makes its way to the runners.

NagleMac

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Oh ok, I personally don't elite they do anything, I'm just kinda thinking maybe that's why some people believe they would work

91 Droptop

Horse Power does not come from a cheap part like this, they are looking to make money on the hopes of people who search for cheap power gains. Really its more of a marketing scam then anything else, save up your money and get headers. last thing these cars need is more air in and not enough going out.

Tuned Performance

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wow, 22hp increase 4mpg increase too. lol

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TPI-Throttle...ht_1721wt_1058

AussieIROC66

tunedperformance .... hahaha that is a little to extreme to beleive

AussieIROC66

So 9 months on and I'm wondering if 91phoenix ever did his 'with & without' testing.

I have finally picked up the car you see as my avatar about a month ago, so being a relative newbie to the scene I'm wondering if there's anyone doing tried & tested performance packages?

I have read a lot about performance upgrades that revolve around mixing & matching different brands which would have different outcomes for everyone.

Who has a true tried & tested package available with performance figures?

91phoenix

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AussieIROC66, it has been nine months or more since I wrote that. I ran into problems finding a good V8 to start with and then decided that I had to have a manual tranny. I found a T56 but when looking for a motor later I heard I was going to be losing my job. I will be starting another job soon and hope that I can start looking for a motor again. I still have everything waiting to be put on a motor.
Between that and getting married and working on the house I haven't done much to the Bird yet. My wife does not mind me working on the cars and actually wants the Firebird and the TBird roadworthy again.

AussieIROC66

91phoenix,
Thanks for the reply.

No worries mate, It had me wondering what you had done. Too bad about the job loss, I hope you find a better one.

Congrats on the marriage and house, your lucky to have a wife into nice cars. Best of luck.

91phoenix

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It may be awhile yet but I will update this when it gets together and I can say what if anything I felt for seat of pants feedback etc.
I got the call and found out I start the new job this coming Monday, the 17th.

d00012

My dad has one in his 8.1 vortec truck...I don't think it does anything, other than make a whistling noise and even that might be the CAI and sheer volume of air being sucked in. My buddy with his '06 Charger claimed it worked. I was thinking of finding one for cheap and testing, but got caught up in LT headers and new brakes, haha!