Theking

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Hi!

Just want some input on this below :-)
All comments and thoughts are welcome

84z .....

if u get the Streetfire box i come with all that stuuf u need that the 6a dont have. 200 or less

Theking

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What is the difference on that then ?

Do the tachometer work right on?

Isnt the MSD a good buy ?


Please guys, more input on this :-)

ssean92

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I have a crane Hi-6 for sale, the crane box is a much better unit.

Twin_Turbo

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The new digital MSD 6al2 is fine, the older ones sucks green donkey D..'s. Personally I love the crane units, they even come with nice weatherpack connectors

why is the tach adapter in your cart?? I have only used those on fords with factory tachs

Theking

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MSD 6A or 6AL (only difference is rev limiter right?) No need for rev limiter cause I want rip her like that :-)

so why go with crane units ? is there adapters for them to so I dont have to cut in the stock wiring, I dont want to destroy the stock wiring by cutting it..

whats the benefits with crane hi-6 towards the new MSD 6A (6200) ?


EDIT: Read about MSD 6A vs. Crane HI6 and people seem to say its pretty much the same, some people tried both and could tell a difference.. I already have an MSD 8366 Distributor and MSD BlasterCoil 8226 someone said if you have the msd dizzy go with the msd box.

1LEZ

If you are going to use a box the digital six has great options for the money. Especially if you are going to use N20 ever

Twin_Turbo

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I meant AL2, not AL. Get the II, it's digital and vastly superior to the ordinary one

84z .....

msd makes and warranty's the Streetfire box, rev limiter tach and peace of mind all for less then 200 bucks

Theking

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So the MSD 6A isnt anything to have then ?

the AL2 costs $78 more .. Im not going to race etc, Just want some better ignition system..

Thanks for your inputs, I will read thru about the AL2 then. If the MSD 6A is just crap ??

Twin_Turbo

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OR like said above, get the streetfire box. It has what you want, it's a lot cheaper

Theking

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MSD Street Fire box (5520) is almost the same exept its putting out little less power right ?

Theking

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You gave me alot to think about now guys :-)

Either I go with the Street fire or the 6A box (there is only $30 bucks difference on the street fire and the 6A box.. and the 6A box puts out stronger sparks)

Please, give more thoughts and feedbacks, I really appreciate it and I think others do to (that will search on this )


EDIT: Will that GM Dual Connector coil adapter work for streetfire box to ? or only the 6 series ?

84z .....

im runnin a 8361 msd pro dis. with a msd ss blaster coil to the 5520 streetfire.

my old set up was stock style hei dis. with stock coil on it. went i changed everything my little bored 283 came alive again (ie hotter spark better discharge for a better complete burn , u can probly go with any of the box's - the 6a and get what ur looking for with minimal splicing.\

good luck on ur upgrade Sean.

Artisan

I have a 6AL on my 69 Firebird. I'm running an old school 455. I like the rev limiter and the idle was a a little smoother. Its been on the car for 6 years. I realy like it. I haven't really considered putting one one on my Iroc. I may one day though becasue I like the rev limiter. Obviouslty won't fix mechanical overrevs like shifting into the wrong gear but still some nice insurance.

JJ63

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Isn't Streetfire made in China, while the regular MSD is still made in USA?

Theking

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Could be, thats could explain the much lower price for Street Fire box.

But I prolly will go with 6A anyway God Bless America!

customblackbird

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if you get the summit mag u will see under tech (in where the spark boxes are) that too much ignition is bad. a hotter ignition will wear parts faster and most likely not benefit u at all. on a stock type motor ud be wasting your money. unless your running some serious compression or plan on a power adder ud be fine with an aftermarket/upgraded HEI.

now do i believe that? lol nooooo. personally i would light the cylinders myself with a lighter if it would give me alittle more power

everyones looking at the MSD boxes... why not just go for it all and get the sexy pertronix box ive been wanting! its 315$ but it has everything and has a much hotter spark than the MSD, has MULTIPLE firing all the way to redline! MSD only goes to like 3000. pertronix has rev limiter built in with dial (not pills) hotter spark, less current draw, multiple spark to redline and alot of other stuff.

do i think u need it? no, ur engine isnt anything crazy. i have a stock distributer with a DUI module, DUI cap/rotor (made is USA, MSD is not) i have mallory 8mm custom wires by me, MSD blaster coil (48,000v) and im running accel ugroove plugs. this fires my 480hp 383 HSR with no issues or hicups, and it revs to 6000 and beyond. id say hold off on it and buy something else with your money.

Theking

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MSD is made in USA (but their Street Fire series is not) Its been discussed widely

Thanks for your input, Ill hold on to this thought wich box to buy, Thanks for all responses, Now I got some thinking todo :-)

customblackbird

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i have the MSD cap/rotor in my hand right now... no where does it say MADE in USA! even the original packaging says no where. the DUI cap/rotor have it as part of the casting on both peices.

ive had lots of trouble with the MSD cap/rotor... the brass terminals would oxide very quickly and build up that stuff where the rotor fires to the plug terminals inside the cap. even after scraping it clean, im talking 800miles maybe and it was noticable again. this was with stock plug gaps (.034") and a accel control module and MSD coil. as far as im concerned MSDs stuff is nothing to brag about.

check out http://www.performancedistributors.com/
stuffs really good they actually build components for hypertech like there 55,000V HEI cap/rotor/coil package.

86IrocLewie

I have the MSD 6A in my car with MSD Coil, and I noticed a difference immediately. As soon as I started the car, the idle sounded better. This was on a 350 (320 hp 379ft/lbs) with stock distributor and MSD plug wires. I don't know how much difference this would make on a stock setup, but it was noticeable on my car.

Install was a piece of cake. The hardest thing was deciding where to mount it in the engine well.

If you're just looking to improve spark, have you checked your plug wires first? If your wires are old and worn, replacing them would probably go farther than an aftermarket ignition.

As far as MSD 6A-6AL's being junk, they do tend to appear on a lot of cars that are way faster than mine. Check out engine bay pics in Hot Rod or Chevy High Performance, and you'll see that red box there frequently. I don't doubt that the Crane or Pertronix units are great, but to say the MSD 6A-6AL is junk is probably a bit overzealous.

badgta

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back when i had nitrous on my tpi 350, i had just got done making a pass, and decided to try the factory ignition for a pass, i bypassed the msd box, ( unhooked the splice harness showed above and put the factory connectors hookup) and the car missed a little, like 1 plug was fouled or somthing, hooked the 6a box back up and idle was smooth as a babies behind again! msd is the shiznit, reguardless of wether its the 6a, 6al, or 6al2, you will be glad ya got one.

and as to not having a rev limiter, id feel better having one, set it and have your shift light come one a few hundred rpm lower so you shift right at the cutout. nothing but max power baby.

Gumby

If ya don't buy the good MSD stuff then just buy a Summit box, its just a Mallory box with a different sticker.

But MSD is the king for a good reason.

89ROC-Z

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I got the mallory 685. Awesome unit. has weatherpack connectors, 2 step rev, single stage timing retard, start retard, can run a map and boost and it will cut timing for you, pretty much does everything you need. Idle improved significantly, and the start retard fires it up instantly

GraphMan

Where did you end up mounting the MSD box ?
Is there any kind of lube to prevent corrosion of brass connectors in the MSD distributor cap?

tkcaraudio

I would buy a mallory unilite dist for your application then buy a Mallory Coil and Mallory ignition box... .

This the ignition system I have had the best luck from

89ROC-Z

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This is where i put mine. Really no place for it under the hood imo.

Zepher

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That mallory box isn't supposed to be mounted in the engine bay if the car is driven in wet weather since it is not 100% weather sealed.
I have the same box but haven't installed it yet, it's been in my garage for 5 or 6 years now. lol. I am not too worried about not using it since it's brand new and I got it for free, buying, selling and trading some parts.